There are 6-7-8 year combined bachelor’s plus MD or DO programs.
These are usually referred to as BA (or BS)/MD(or DO) programs.
If your daughter wants a MD degree, AMCAS publishes a list of accredited programs.
There are fewer BA/DO programs:
NOVA Southestern in Florida
Illinois Institute of Technology/Chicago College of Osteopathic Medicine
Massachussetts College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences/AT Stills COM
Michigan State University
Missouri Southern State University/Kansas City University COM
Pittsburg State University/Kansas City University COM
Rowan University-Camden campus /Rowan College of Osteopathic Medicine
Adelphi University/NYIT-COM
SUNY Old Westbury/NYIT-COM
New York Tech/NYIT-COM
Adelphi University/PCOM
LECOM + list of affiliated colleges
Each BA/MD/DO program has its own unique requirements and deadlines. You will need to check with each school for those. Some BA/MD and BA/DO program are highly biased toward in-state applicants.
BA/MD programs are more competitive for admission than BA/DO programs.
Admissions are extremely competitive for BA/MD–even more competitive than for admission to the HPYSM schools. Acceptance rates are well under 5%.
There are pluses and minuses to the BA/MD/DO route.
The first thing you need to understand that admission to medical school portion of the program is never “guaranteed”. Students must meet specific conditions to advance to the medical education portion of the program. Achieve a certain GPA with no C grades, often achieve a certain MCAT score, complete X hours of volunteer medical activities, Y number of hours shadowing, Z number of hours of community service. Plus anything else the program requires.
Often the only thing a BA/MD/DO program does is guarantee the student will get an interview for admission to the med school. (IOW, they’ll interview but may not be selected for admission.)
The program administrators always reserve the right to dismiss a student from the program at any time with no warning and without giving a reason.
In most cases, the student must commit to attending the med school associated with the BA/MD/DO program and eschew applying to other medical schools. Applying to other schools typically automatically voids any admission/interview the student might get at their home program. This means a student cannot compare admission offers (to, for example, pick a less expensive school).
The pluses include less stress and uncertainty when it comes time to start med school. Fewer costs associated with applying to 20+ med schools during their application cycle.
I remember with @momsearcheng kid and LECOM, they went that route - because they wouldn’t have to take the MCAT. So there is perhaps that thinking too. I’m not sure what has to happen for the guarantee to hold but I know at many schools you need an MCAT minimum but at LECOM it’s waved. I hope I got that right.
You are correct on both counts. @momsearcheng has D who going the LECOM BA/DO route via Rhodes College.
LECOM is one of about a dozen or so BA/MD/DO programs that do NOT require a MCAT score to advance to the medical school portion. At programs that do not require a MCAT, usually just taking the MCAT will invalidate any admission guarantees a student has.
Every program’s its own rules and the rules can be quite nit-picky.
However, regardless of whether the MCAT is require or not ALL medical students (MD and DO) are required to take and pass several standardized national licensing exams in order to graduate from med school. The MCAT is just the first—and easiest-–of a lifetime of standardized tests that doctors take.
Why are you looking for a program like this? That might help us a bit.
@WayOutWestMom can clarify, but at some BS/MD programs, if you are receiving undergrad need based aid, once you enter the medical school portion, you are no longer considered an undergrad. For 6 and 7 year programs, this can be in year 3 or 4 of this combined program.
Maybe I missed it but…
Is your daughter a U.S. citizen?
What is your annual amount you can spend towards her college costs?
Will you be able to help with medical school costs?
Even at 6 year programs where the BA/BS degree isn’t conferred until the student has completed the first year of med school, students are no longer considered undergrads after they matriculate into med school in the summer before what would normally be their junior year of college.
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BTW, it is possible to matriculate directly into med school from undergrad without enrolling in BA/MD program.
Students who are 100% sure they want to go to med school can start prepping for admission as soon as they start undergrad. They will start their medical volunteering/employment, research lab, community service ASAP once they set foot on campus. They’ll front load their academic schedule with all the require pre-req classes staring first semester of college so they’re prepared to take the MCAT in the winter/early spring of their junior year.
Once they have their letters of evaluation from their professors (or the college’s health professions advising office), a GPA in med-school range, a MCAT score, and the hundreds of experience hours expected, they can apply at the end of their junior year of college and enter the 12 month long med school application cycle. If they earn an acceptance, they will matriculate into med school in the summer immediately following their college graduation.
About 15-18% of entering med students matriculate directly from undergrad.
If a student has Green Card/Permanent resident that should be sufficient for any medical program. I haven’t seen a program that excludes Permanent residents.
Permanent Residents can do and participate (get any benefits) in everything as American Citizens but vote as far as I know. That is why they are called Permanent Residents.
Minus maybe getting top security clearance and working for defense related projects.
The UCs do not use SAT scores in admissions. However if the student is planning to apply to OOS universities, most OOS schools use standardized test scores (SAT or ACT).
The UC application itself does not accept recommendation letters, but in some cases a campus may request additional information after a student has applied (I believe that UC Berkeley requests letters from about 15% of applicants, for example). As far as I know, UC Davis doesn’t request or use recommendation letters, though.
UC Davis does not accept recommendation letters for Prospective Freshman. UC Berkeley is the only UC that accepts LOR’s by invitation only and as stated by @tamagotchi around 15% of applicants are selected.
Currently all UC’s are test blind but I agree that both LOR’s and SAT scores may be needed if your student applies to Private and Out of state universities.
and working for defense related projects.