Is America Ready for a Woman President?

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<p>That order would never work - she would chew him up and spit him out.</p>

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<p>Yes that order, just look at Bush/Cheney even though Cheney is the tough (evil) one he still is second to Bush.</p>

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<p>Am I the only one who doesn’t think Hillary IS a liberal?</p>

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<p>“Am I the only one who doesn’t think Hillary IS a liberal”</p>

<p>I don’t know if you’re the only one, but I think she is (how do you feel about those $5000 bonds?), but puts a great face on it.</p>

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<p>weenie, I agree that Hillary is not so liberal. I liked the old socialist Hillary. I think she has toned down her “liberality” “liberalness” “liberalnicity” for the election.</p>

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<p>^ Yeah and Giulliani toned down his socialism too - that doesn’t mean they still don’t hold those views and wouldn’t act on them in office. :(</p>

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<p>I agree with you, weenie. Neither Hillary nor Bill are liberals, in my book. Maybe they were in their 20s, but no more. </p>

<p>I am more than ready for a woman president. So is my daughter. I don’t think electing Hillary shows women they can’t make it without a man. In her case, I think she’ll make it in spite of him. </p>

<p>I’m sticking with Edwards or Dodd in the primary (Hillary hasn’t convinced me that she’ll end our Iraq occupation), but if Hillary gets the nod, it will be easier voting for her because she is a woman. If she won’t stop this insane occupation in the middle east, at least she can forward the cause of women as leaders in the world. Hopefully, she’ll also admit that global warming is real, that torture is something this country should refuse to participate in, and that we need some improvement in our health care system (although I won’t hold my breath). I can’t see anything good coming from any of the Republican candidates along those lines, so I’ll take the good where I can.</p>

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<p>I think I am more than ready for a female president.</p>

<p>The cost of the war in Iraq: 2 billion dollars a week and still counting</p>

<p>The cost of the US heading in the wrong direction: I am still waiting for the bill to be added up.</p>

<p>The chance to elect an intelligent, poised, competent and successful Hilary to lead us in the right direction, and also as my president: Priceless</p>

<p>For everyone else there is Rudy.</p>

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<p>With joy and celebration for two reasons:</p>

<p>a) Much of the world looks at the United States as behind the times. Electing a female President would INSTANTLY change the perception of the United States.</p>

<p>b) Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton are adored around the world. Remember, Hillary visited 86 countries as First Lady and gave some major speeches, including the best known speech of her career, in China, on women’s rights. Bill Clinton is known around the world for his philanthropy. For example, the BBC world service has been giving his Clinton Global Initiative Conference extensive coverage this week. Tsunami Relief in Indonesia. HIV-AIDS work in Africa, etc.</p>

<p>To me, the potential for major gains in foreign policy and the perception of the United States is the SINGLE BIGGEST reason I support Senator Clinton.</p>

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<p>Hillary is not nearly liberal enough for me, but I’ll vote for her anyway.</p>

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<p>A few of the international press service stories on the Clinton Global Initiative this week:</p>

<p>Reuters India: Leaders, stars tackle global woes at Clinton summit
<a href=“http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29735520070927[/url]”>http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29735520070927&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Reuters: Bill Clinton generates 245 pledges to act on woes
<a href=“http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2846326020070928[/url]”>http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2846326020070928&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>**China View: Clinton Global Initiative begins **
<a href=“http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-09/27/content_6800914.htm[/url]”>http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-09/27/content_6800914.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>What the United States desperately needs to do is what we do best: marketing. Approach “selling” the United States brand in the same way that a candidate sells a brand in a Presidential campaign. Or Microsoft sells its brand in the worldwide software market. The opportunities for this in a Clinton administration (with Bill as “marketer-in-chief”) are enormous.</p>

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<p>Hillary Clinton is a combination liberal and war monger. She is a traditional tax and spend liberal who likes to spend on every social program she can and also on every war she can. She is the worst of both Democrats and Republicans. She is just like her husband, BTW.</p>

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<p>Bill Clinton cut our deficit over his two terms in office. He didn’t bankrupt our country spending hundreds of billions of dollars that we don’t have.</p>

<p>No, Bill Clinton was no George Bush when it comes to spending!</p>

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<p>ZM, if Hillary is elected, she will make it easier for subsequent women to make it without having had her advantages apropos of Bill. However, even with Bill, she wouldn’t be where she is today without being formidable in her own right.</p>

<p>But you really really really should drop the attitude about Hillary knocking another candidate out of running for the NY Senate seat. It happens all the time, and has nothing to do with Hillary and nothing to do with the candidates being women. Go Googling on the subject of primaries “being cleared” for one candidate or another, sometimes nicely, often not so nicely. Politics is a bare-knuckle sports and not for the squeamish. What Hillary did was no different than countless other candidates, of both major political parties have done. In short, <em>that</em> as an objection is irrelevant and something of a red herring.</p>

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<p>Speaking of clearing primaries, ZM might want to do a little Googling on Barack Obama’s sharp elbows. He got his gift Senate seat when Carol Mosley-Braun initially decided not to seek her old seat after returning from an Ambassadorship to New Zealand, instead stupidly deciding on a vanity run for President. Obama went after the seat. Moseley wanted to get back in the Senate race after her Presidential run collapsed. Obama not only refused to step aside, he challenged her signatures and got her knocked off the ballot! So much for Mr. Nice Guy. This after Obama had made an unsuccessful effort to knock off long-time incumbent black Congressman Bobby Rush in a 2000 primary challenge.</p>

<p>BTW, I think Hillary will likely be a better President than Bill was. Nobody has his charisma and people skills, but Hillary is a much more disciplined politician and probably smarter. More importantly, she won’t be so green. Bill got rolled early on because he didn’t understand Washington.</p>

<p>Hillary won’t make those mistakes. She’ll pucker up and plant smooches on big pasty-white Senatorial arses and let the big egos like Kennedy and Grassley and others take ownership of health care legislation. She probably won’t even make the mistake of trying to do one gigantic omnibus bill, instead using all the little dark alleys of the legislative road map to enact a piece here, a piece there. </p>

<p>You can tell from her campaign that she doesn’t miss many tricks. If you follow her campaign closely, it’s just amazing how she has meticulously gone down the checklist of goals and objectives, often completely under the radar of the national clucking pundits.</p>

<p>There’s an example this week: a cover story interview in the largest national LGBT newsmagazine, The Advocate. Not only giving them the interview, but setting the magazine up with interviews with several top gay officials and staffers, each with a touching feel-good story about Hillary’s kindness to them.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.advocate.com/uploadedImages/advocate/editorial/issue_covers/A994x300.jpg[/url]”>http://www.advocate.com/uploadedImages/advocate/editorial/issue_covers/A994x300.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The Object of Our Affection
<a href=“http://www.advocate.com/issue_story_ektid49015.asp[/url]”>http://www.advocate.com/issue_story_ektid49015.asp&lt;/a&gt; </p>

<p>Or, speaking to the national convention of black hairdressers and jokingly handing out beauty shop posters showing all of her hairstyles over the years:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.hillaryclinton.com/video/44.aspx[/url]”>http://www.hillaryclinton.com/video/44.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Obama’s trailing her in the black vote. I don’t think he even knows what hit him. Every week, she’s doing two or three events with Democratic constituent groups, most not even making the national news. She understands where the rank n’ file Democratic votes are…and they aren’t hanging out in Starbucks or on the lefty blogs. Meanwhile Obama is skipping AARP and union debates in Iowa – how crazy is that?</p>

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<p>^ Hillary is the mainstream media’s golden child. She never gets asked the difficult questions in debates or interviews, because with her positions, they would back her into a corner that would be difficult to explain away in a nice political way. </p>

<p>Anyway, if you want a hilarious take on the first democratic debate, check out this video
<a href=“http://www.current.tv/pods/supernews/PD06121[/url]”>http://www.current.tv/pods/supernews/PD06121&lt;/a&gt; :D</p>

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<p>NOTHING will change if HC is elected. We will be in Iraq for the foreseeable future no matter who is elected, but she is closer in ideology to Bush than any of the other Dem candidates.</p>

<p>Sorry IDad, but that’s my impression, based on her behaviors/actions over the past years. However, if my choice is her or any of the GOP candidates offered up thus far, I am just going to have to hold my nose and vote for her anyway, because she is still marginally better than her opponents. Marginally. What a way to vote!</p>

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<p>I just love this exchange of ideas!!</p>

<p>REgarding the earlier discussion about Maggie and Hillary…IS the big difference that Maggie was conservative and Hillary is liberal? I just don’t see that platform mattered all that much. Was Maggie successful only because of her conservative platform? Or was she simply a strong leader with good ideas who just happened to have female anatomy? Maybe the UK really was open-minded and gender didn’t matter?? Regardless of your chosen side of the aisle, it seems objective reviews say she was a successful PM. Maybe, had the times been right…even a liberal Maggie would have been equally successful??</p>

<p>What if a Republican female–a conservative–made a legitimate run for the White House? Could Republicans seriously consider a female for president? My gut says ‘No’. IF there’s is to be a ground-breaking female running for President of the United States, it has to be a Democrat. For example, I don’t see the religious right ( a huge Republican faction ) allowing a woman to get that far. They don’t even want women leading their churches, much less their country! </p>

<p>…Thoughts??</p>

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Garbage. If Condi were running for the republican nomination, she would be very competitive if not the winner. </p>

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The President should be looking out for American interests even if it is not popular. Under your view, Hillary will likely distance America from Israel in order to be popular with the rest of the world. Most of the world’s leaders are dictators. Under your view, Hillary will permit them to get away with their usual nonsense so that she will be popular. </p>

<p>The real problem for American with a female President would be the perception in the Muslim world. Muslim males spend much of their time trying to control female sexuality. A female American president would show weakness and increase the likelihood of terrorist attacks and it would pose a threat that Muslim women might want to start making decisions in their lives. That would also create a greater threat of terrorist attacks. </p>

<p>I can think of reasons to vote for Hillary, but suggesting she would be popular or make American popular in the Boy’s Club (consisting of the rest of the world) is just plain silly.</p>

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<p>razorsharp:</p>

<p>There are two, not entirely unrelated, sides to foreign policy.</p>

<p>1) America’s standing with world leaders
2) America’s perception in the eyes of the “street”</p>

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<p>You just argued that we should adopt fundamentalist Islamic views of womens role in our society because we are afraid of some crackpot terrorists. Should we take away the right to vote and make them wear burkhas, too…just to satisfy Osama bin Laden? Personally, I don’t give a flying […] what Osama bin Laden thinks, but that’s just me.</p>

<p>The symbolism of a female President in an ultra-conservative, cowboy-diplomacy country like the United States will be very powerful around the world. Do not forget that many countries around the world have already had female leaders. They wonder when the United States will catch up.</p>