Is Bush the Worst President in American History?

<p>We cannot allow the income gap to continue to widen and, at the same time, delude ourselves into thinking that we can remain a democracy–an oligarchy, yes, but not a democracy. This sentiment was perhaps best expressed by Louis Brandeis, a U S Supreme Court justice between 1916 and 1939, who said, “We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can’t have both.”</p>

<p>As Funding Driver, kluge, wicked and others defend to the death their belief in the wisdom of the free market, those oligarchs are smiling, and, of course, thanking them profusely for keeping the faith.</p>

<p>And to those who wax rhapsodic about our superior health care system, I offer excerpts of an article from the Minneapolis Star-Tribune about ground zero at the Mayo Clinic.</p>

<p>Year after year, the Mayo Clinic trails only Johns Hopkins as the best hospital system in America, according to the respected U.S. News & World Report annual survey, and tops all others in a number of specialties.</p>

<p>Yet the Rochester-based Mayo saw a 9 percent decline in its 2005 operating revenue compared with 2004 figures and performed fewer surgeries.</p>

<p>The decline in operating revenues – $301 million to $275 million – doesn’t threaten the Mayo’s financial health. But Mayo executives see a disturbing trend at work: Mayo is now considered too expensive by insurers that would rather have patients go to hospitals open to negotiating big discounts.</p>

<p>The cost pressures built into patient care clearly pose a long-term issue for a top-tier facility that has built its reputation on quality rather than cost containment. That concerns Mayo executives.</p>

<p>“Trying to make tweaks to the current system is really doomed for failure,” said Dr. Denis Cortese, Mayo’s chief executive and president. “There really is no system of health care in this country now.”</p>

<p>It would be natural to assume that the Mayo could escape at least some of the cost pressures that ordinary hospitals face. But in fact, some of those pressures are more acute at Mayo. For example, the Medicare reimbursement program for seniors often does not cover the cost of care. While that’s a problem for all providers, it hits Mayo especially hard, since Medicare patients account for 45 percent of admissions at the Rochester campus and for more than 33 percent of the patients at Mayo’s hospitals in Jacksonville, Fla., and Scottsdale, Ariz. In addition, more research projects are done at Mayo than at many facilities, and experimental work is being squeezed by tighter federal funding.</p>

<p>Mayo’s margin on income last year was 4.7 percent, above its goal of 4.3 percent, and the organization built its endowment to more than $1 billion.</p>

<p>“Insurance products make money by restricting where patients can go,” Cortese said. “They’re trying to reduce the amount of money going out the door.”</p>

<p>That business philosophy is wrongheaded, Cortese argues, because high-quality care can prevent future hospitalizations or relapses. Because consumers frequently switch health plans and the government takes care of seniors, insurers are not motivated to look at the big picture, contends Cortese.</p>

<p>And, for my last act, the oligarchy at work:Senate Republicans on Monday hurriedly abandoned a broad tax proposal opposed by the oil industry and business leaders, another sign of their struggle to come up with an acceptable political and legislative answer to high gasoline prices.</p>

<p>Senator Bill Frist of Tennessee, the majority leader, said he had decided to jettison the provision, which would have generated billions of dollars by changing the way businesses treat inventories for tax purposes.</p>

<p>carlmom: If you were thinking of leaving, Please don’t. I am about talked out and there is need for new prospects/prespects/perspects on this forum. You need to get to at least 500 posts to even think about leaving as you last act. Take a break at the Sinners thread-a real hen house.</p>

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<p>We are a federal republic, chief. Don’t delude yourself to thinking otherwise.</p>

<h1>185. Maria Ant. and Louis said something very similiar, and thus France became a Republic, until Nappy thought otherwise but still kept the name. But then again “Republics” have different definitions. ie Republic of China, Peoples Republic of China, Union Soviet Socialist Republics (too old for you to know about)</h1>

<p>Main Entry: federal republic
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: a form of government made up of a federal state with a constitution and self-governing subunits
Example: The United States of America is a federal republic on the continent of North America. </p>

<p><a href=“http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=democracy[/url]”>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=democracy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>asdfg</p>

<p>China, USSR, etc, don’t fit the bill.</p>

<p>Their dictionaries would prove otherwise.</p>

<p>Maybe I’m reading you wrong, w1cked, but were you intending to indicate that you feel that America is not a democracy?</p>

<p>Ok, so I reconsdiered my “last act” on this thread. All of those posters above who defended our free-market health system must be educated about the misinformation that they spew…so from the Associated Press, today:</p>

<p>"CHICAGO (AP) – Middle-aged, white Americans are much sicker than their counterparts in England, startling new research shows, despite U.S. health care spending per person that’s more than double what England spends.</p>

<p>A higher rate of Americans tested positive for diabetes and heart disease than the English. Americans also self-reported more diabetes, heart attacks, strokes, lung disease and cancer.</p>

<p>The gap between the countries holds true for educated and uneducated, rich and poor.</p>

<p>“At every point in the social hierarchy there is more illness in the United States than in England and the differences are really dramatic,” said study co-author Dr. Michael Marmot, an epidemiologist at University College London in England.</p>

<p>The study, appearing in Wednesday’s Journal of the American Medical Association, adds context to the already-known fact that the United States spends more on health care than any other industrialized nation, yet trails in rankings of life expectancy.</p>

<p>The United States spends about $5,200 per person on health care while England spends about half that in adjusted dollars.</p>

<p>“Everybody should be discussing it: Why isn’t the richest country in the world the healthiest country in the world?” Marmot said.</p>

<p>“It’s something of a mystery,” said Richard Suzman of the U.S. National Institutes of Health, which helped fund the study.</p>

<p>The researchers looked for answers in the data, which came from government-sponsored health surveys. The research was supported by grants from government agencies in both countries. A U.S. researcher from the Rand Corp. was on the team.</p>

<p>Smoking rates are about the same on both sides of the pond. The English have a higher rate of heavy drinking, but a higher percentage of Americans are obese.</p>

<p>The researchers crunched numbers to create a hypothetical statistical world in which the English had American lifestyle risk factors, including being as fat as Americans. In that model, the researchers found Americans still would be sicker.</p>

<p>Only non-Hispanic whites were included in the study to eliminate the influence of racial disparities. The researchers looked only at people ages 55 through 64, and the average age of the samples was the same.</p>

<p>Americans reported twice the rate of diabetes compared to the English: 12.5 percent versus 6 percent. For high blood pressure, it was 42 percent for Americans versus 34 percent for the English; cancer showed up in 9.5 percent of Americans compared to 5.5 percent of English.</p>

<p>The upper crust in both countries was healthier than middle-class and low-income people in the same country. But richer Americans’ health status resembled the health of the low-income British.</p>

<p>Health experts have known the U.S. population is less healthy than that of other industrialized nations, according to several important measurements. U.S. life expectancy, for example, ranks behind that of about two dozen other countries, according to the World Health Organization.</p>

<p>Some have believed the U.S. has lagged because it has a more ethnically diverse population than some of the higher-ranking countries, said Suzman, who heads the National Institute on Aging’s Behavioral and Social Research Program. “Minority health in general is worse than white health,” he said.</p>

<p>But the new study showed that when minorities are removed from the equation, and adjustments are made to control for education and income, white people in England are still healthier than white people in the United States."</p>

<p>Yup. America is a republic. Not a democracy. Refer to the writings of the FFs who warned that a democracy would be destructive and that America must not be a democracy, but rather a federal republic whose main purpose would be to protect individual rights of men.</p>

<p>Carlmom: Refer to my links about the incompetence of socialized healthcare.</p>

<p>he may not be the worst president ever but he is definetly the worst president of this century</p>

<p>LOL! I sure know I feel that MY rights are being protected! LOL!</p>

<p>Another CC reader and poster who thinks this thread is absurd! (No time to read it all.) Ridiculous to slander Bush like this.</p>

<p>Considering he is the only president of the century, we shall have to wait before making final judgement.</p>

<p>no kidding really lol</p>

<p>Filler, when a president ignores over 700 laws, ignores Constitutional statutes and provisions, basically puts himself above the law and pretends he is God, well…time to slander away!</p>

<p>Yo, come to think of it, we haven’t had a good prez since Cleveland; I guess you can even make the case that Harding or Coolidge were semi decent.</p>

<p>w1cked, why do you believe that “federal republic” and “democracy” mutually exclusive?
From your link:

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<p>Guy go read what the ffs had to say about democracy. Here is something to get you started.</p>

<p><a href=“http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4652[/url]”>http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4652&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Oh, I liked the fifth definition the best:</p>

<p>Democracy- Majority rule.</p>