Is Duke going to be a casualty of Brown/Penn/Chicago's rise?

[jak321]

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@curvyteen

Jak, I don’t know how to break this to you, but let’s just say you’re very,very naive (and perhaps a little disillusioned) if you truly believe that Chicago (which until 2 years ago had a 36% yield) splits cross admits with Princeton evenly.

Tone down the ad hominem…</p>

<p>Two things.

1. this data is from the period where Chicago had a 46% yield. Princeton had a 55-58% yield until they instated SCEA.

@jak321

I honestly think these discrepancies arise because the cross-admit data they have between any two schools is paltry. Chicago splits about 45-55 with Princeton and Princeton splits about 75-25 with Duke, yet Duke wins the Chicago cross-admit battles? Granted these statistics do not have to be perfectly transitive, but this a far cry from acceptable incongruity.

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<p>I’m pretty much on your side. I’m using this data to show how ludicrous some of the college comparisons on Parchment are. The overall ranking (and I only allude to its relative “accuracy” by virtue of having a much larger sample size) does place Princeton ahead of Chicago, but not by much:</p>

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@jak321

The overall parchment ranking, with its substantially larger sample size, is far more indicative:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.parchment.com/c/college/college-rankings.php[/url]”>http://www.parchment.com/c/college/college-rankings.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The rankings go HSYMP, UChicago, Brown, Caltech, Amherst… Duke is 12th

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@curvyteen

As far as the world rankings are concerned, everybody and their aunt knows that they focus primarily on education at the graduate level.

Irrelavent. I was merely responding to your previous comment:</p>

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@curvyteen

Chicago decided it was above ‘petty’ rankings. It faded into relative obscurity for decades before its recent resurgence due to the fact that it is now overcompensating for its prior apathy by relentlessly gaming the rankings (which Duke by the way needs to do more of).

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@curvyteen

I do not think that anyone is disputing the fact that Chicago is one of the best schools in the world at the graduate level. However, having said that, can you really say with a straight face that the world rankings have any semblance of credibility?

Their methodologies are reasonably transparent, and they only measure a colleges successes in certain (weighted) criteria. While I question the importance of most of their criteria (and it is this that leads to your UC at B vs Duke, Brown and Dartmouth discrepancy), they are not bogus. </p>

<p>And even if they were, that would not take away from my point.

@jak321

USNews (National) Starting '83
6, 5, 8, 10, 9, 11, 10, 9, 9, 10, 11, 12… tied for 9th in '07

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<p>Regardless, I was just responding to your comment, which made it sound like Chicago was nowhere (as far as rankings go) until it decided to cheat a few years ago. That’s palpably false. It has featured prominently in most rankings for almost a century now, and, as I mentioned, it never really “gamed” its rankings, just corrected some flawed data it was sending, remnants of its hitherto apathy towards rankings.</p>