<p>Why would anyone vote for a Republican? Did anyone see them talk about American healthcare system, against socializing because America has the greatest healthcare system on earth? Do they have drug testing for the GOP candidates? How can anyone in that position say something that can’t even be true, have they watched a single second of NBC, about America’s obesity problems, and how the richests Americans have poorer health outcomes than the poorest people in Britain. Voting for a Republican, similiar to voting for any idiot.</p>
<p>Obama just gave a great speech. He sure isn’t throwing in the towel yet.</p>
<p>Well, so far he’s only down 2%, hardly reason to throw in the towel.</p>
<p>My, my, what a difference a day makes. Those who have taken such glee in criticizing Clinton and in predicting her defeat in NH should be serving themselves a big piece of humble pie tonight.</p>
<p>“how the richests Americans have poorer health outcomes than the poorest people in Britain.”</p>
<p>Cite please.</p>
<p>I am already fantasizing about a possible Hillary/Obama Democratic ticket. It gives me chills to even contemplate a woman and an African American male team. Would be phenomenal if it worked. Historical and long awaited for, for sure!</p>
<p>Your kidding Rainma, right? By the time all is said and done I’ll be surprised if they could be in the same room. This will now get bitter and Hillary will do a better job than the Republicans in shredding Obama.</p>
<p>This is such a bone for Clinton. She is really needing money and losing NH was making a lot of people reevaluate backing her. Now she’ll get the money to skewer Obama.</p>
<p>I have this sinking feeling I had when I realized this Country would actually elect Bush to a second term.</p>
<p>I think TIME got it right, Iowa was the youth vote surprise in going to Obama. Seems NH has a lot of old women! MA liberals. Little reflection on the rest of the Country.</p>
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<p>That is one way to look at it! </p>
<p>This is where the real difference a day made … how quickly the fair weather HRH supporters departed at the first sign of trouble and stopped their usual --and annoying-- hollow crowing. </p>
<p>Speaking about “humble pie,” wasn’t the unrelenting supporter not hedging his bets this morning and claiming that Clinton would not have to withdraw until February the 6th. </p>
<p>Fwiw, people who do not care for Clinton also knew a victory or a loss in New Hampshire meant … nothing. No matter how bad the news could have been, Clinton would never resign herself to a defeat, especially a defeat to Obama, even with Chris Dodd’s numbers.</p>
<p>In the meantime, it is utterly hilarious to hear how the 800 lbs gorilla, the invincible juggernaut became the “comeback kid” and scored an “amazing upset” victory. Let’s call it an upset victory worthy of the NE Patiots beating Boston Latin on a Hail Mary pass in the fourth quarter!</p>
<p>This thing will keeping going up and down as the primaries come and go. A third place in Iowa and a squeaky victory in NH is such wonderful news!</p>
<p>The ugly turkey is not cooked yet, but neither is the humble pie you’d like everyone to eat.</p>
<p>Most important thing that came out of today IMO is a really nice job for life with the Clinton’s for whoever thought up the crying stunt. Desperate measures for desperate times!</p>
<p>An aside, Chelsea’s hair cost much more than Edwards’. I want the name of that stylist! I also love the handsome boy with her. He’s the son of 2 former Congresspeople. Think he has political ambitions?</p>
<p>xiggi, if you’ll notice, I hadn’t commented earlier, although I’ve made it pretty clear that I would support Hillary. If you’re addressing the “hollow crowing” comment at me, please show me my post. My comment was aimed at comments, in this thread, that predicted a lack of votes due to Hillary being “disingenuous”, “entrenched in a political quagmire”, “we may not think she is capable of leading the country”, “we vote for leaders”, “the experience message has just not worked”, “she is clearly a divider and not a uniter”, “arousing visceral rancour”, “faulty armor”, “rejection is indeed a bitter pill to swallow”, and “it’s going to be a very long night for them”.</p>
<p>I have no illusions that her win in NH will be easily replicated elsewhere but I’m happy for her and her workers tonight. Why is it too much to ask that some here should maybe, just maybe, for once, admit that perhaps they made a mistake?</p>
<p>Y2K: I hope you realize that there are a lot of problems with universal/socialized healthcare, even in Canada and England, the model countries that proponents of the system like to point to. Countries are having trouble, but realizing that once you switch to that system, it is really hard to switch back. Issues include supply/demand of doctors, cost of education (especially with dentistry, for some reason), extremely high taxes, quality of care, when things are free- people take more than they need, and that the people who benefit from the system are not the ones paying for it.</p>
<p>Canada England and other countries are having problems with their health care systems, yes. </p>
<p>But it is in the United States, the richest of them all, that a huge percentage of people filing for bankrupcty are those with medical bills – AND INSURANCE. People who played by the rules. I know one of them personally. He sits in the office next to mine: an educated guy with a job and yes, insurance. Only he’s now bankrupt because two dire illnesses in his family exceeded his lifetime-million-dollar insurance limit. It wasn’t the cheap ‘no frills’ insurance, either - it was the best option offered by our Fortune 300 company. </p>
<p>The system in the US isn’t working. And there is no excuse for it considering the resources this nation has.</p>
<p>katlia - the wealth of this country astounds me. There is enough money for no one to go wanting of anything. When I see the amount of money in writing that we spend in Iraq in one day, it is just incomprehensible to me.</p>
<p>According to the CEO of Aetna (that raving communist), waiting times for cancer surgery in the U.S. (for those who HAVE insurance) are now longer than for elective surgery in Canada. </p>
<p>No wonder that thousands are now going to India, Thailand, Argentina, Korea for needed surgery.</p>
<p>No one running as far as I know if talking about anything like what Canada and the UK has. What Romney did in MA is mores what they’re discussing in general. Making people pay for insurance. MA found out that 20% could not pay and so they waved it for them. The working poor still has no insurance. Silly.</p>
<p>Mini, in my neighborhood it’s Brazil for plastic surgery, so why not a kidney! It is just obscene we can’t insure our people.</p>
<p>Alwayasamom, you’re taking this stuff way too seriously. Forgive me for poking fun at today’s silence that followed the crocodile tears of yesterday. </p>
<p>I happen to think that the weekly or daily changes in emotions about candidates are hilarious. The only thing missing would be the John Tesch or Jimmy Roberts-like commentaries filled with the florid “agony of defeat” and “ectasy of victory” once reserved for Lance Armstrong in France. </p>
<p>Have no worries; before it turns tragi-comical in November, there will be plenty of opportunities to serve slice of humble pies for both sides. :)</p>
<p>I fear for Obama’s life - have from the beginning and especially over the last couple of days when he became more “real.” Hillary’s success may save his life.</p>
<p>cartera45: I had the same thought.</p>
<p>To use Mitt Romney’s Olympics analogy, with 2 events down:</p>
<p>Obama now has a Gold and a Silver.</p>
<p>Hillary now has a Bronze and a Gold.</p>
<p>Edwards now has a Silver and a Bronze.</p>
<p>Ultimately the final victory could go to any of the competitors. ;)</p>