Is it possible to appeal for free tuition at UCB [NPC says no FA]

@parentologist

Good suggestion as long as the student works to save for the costs of years 3 and 4.

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i didnt think they would or automatically expect thats why i asked. i thought this forum was a place to ask questions

I am not sure that the UCs accept CLEP credits

ok this makes a lot of sense to me thank you and thank you to all the other helpful comments. my parents dont have much experience with this so i appreciate you guys having patience with me.

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It’s good you asked. You can contact Cal financial aid and ask them directly.

You knew from the net price calculator that you would not get aid
that’s what I meant,

Do you have any other college options that are affordable for your family?

Really, the community college start is a good idea. The CA community colleges are good ones.

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If you haven’t already been on the Cal grant website, please review it thoroughly.

See if there’s anywhere you can apply within the state to gain access to funding.
I am linking the California financial aid page. Good luck!

They are really good about answering questions if you call them on the phone. They are used to getting nervous students who don’t know anything about the financing of their universities. Please feel free to contact them at any time.

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@cakesandmilkshakes @worriedmomucb

The UC’s do not accept CLEP credit.

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CLEP is useless for transferring credit to UC, according to Transfer credit practices , which says that “UC does not award credit for: 
 College-Level Examination Program (CLEP)”.

For transfer students, UC campuses re-evaluate all exam scores (AP, IB, etc.) based on their own policies, not the policies of the college the transfer student is applying from. The only apparent exception is stuff like IGETC which is certified by the community college based on the community college’s policy on exam score applicability to IGETC.

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Can your parents help you at all? Can you commute to a community college?

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Unfortunately, many schools are not affordable for many people. That’s why so many chase merit, attend other schools that provide significant need, or in CA may go the CC route.

UCs and moreso the CSUs are inexpensive relative to others but not necessarily for everyone. For many, some schools just don’t fit financially and they have to find alternatives.

If you’re making what a school determines is enough to fund the education, you can ask - but it’s highly unlikely you’d get assistance.

There is still an affordable school out there for you - UCB or another four year school depending on budget - and the beauty of California is that community college to UC path.

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Is the budget really $0 coming from the family?

i did not expect to receive full aid

i guess i expected some aid is what i mean. sorry lmao i don’t really understand this well but i appreciate everyone’s responses

Well, to be fair, if you asked the wrong question, you will get wrong answers.

California public schools do not need to “buy” students but as public entities, they have an obligation to help the “poor.” The fact your net cost calculator says you are full-pay, means (to people here) that your family is considered to have the means to pay for your public education. We are not saying that’s right or wrong, but just the way it is. You can always call Berkeley and ask FA Office if there are other options like loans or work study that you may qualify for; you may not but we don’t know that.

Small privates do buy students with generous scholarships which makes cost of attendance less than that of a CA Public. If your parents just won’t support you, then alternatives are community college and even that isn’t cheap if you have to do it on your own. Sorry, it’s just a sucky situation.

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I think what these thread participants are struggling to understand is how or why you expected funding.

After using the net price calculators, which indicated no eligibility for need-based funding, why you would expect to be funded? That is the confusion.

Yes California is an extremely expensive state to live in, but many people expect to pay for their children’s college tuition and expenses at the in-state Public schools.

I get that your parents don’t have that experience, but you have to expect to pay something towards your children’s education. The fact that they didn’t have any savings for you for college, says a lot about their expectations from this country.

Did they tell you that they have no savings for you? Generally, most people that have over a certain income in California, is saving towards something.

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I did not post that you expected full aid but went by what you stated that you do not qualify for any need based aid which is makes up the majority of aid given at the UC’s.

Not to belabor the point but if the Net price calculators were run prior to applying, the costs should have not been unexpected. Unfortunately many students are not aware of the financial implications when applying to no fault of their own.

Do you have any affordable options?

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I understand that the fact that you didn’t get aid is disappointing. Young people don’t necessarily understand how financial aid works, and they sometimes need a period of mourning once they realize that they only qualify for loans. In my years in financial aid, I also met many adults who didn’t understand how it all works. So many people are surprised. Should they be? Probably not. Are they? Often, they are. It’s tough when reality meets hope.

So now it’s time to put the disappointment behind you & focus on what you will be able to afford. Community college is a good option, but you have to meet with an academic counselor so you can plan a course of study that will get you into a university (you don’t want to take a bunch of classes only to find that some won’t transfer). While working really hard to get the best grades possible, look into schools that have merit aid for transfer students. Some private schools might work for you as a transfer student, but if you choose to attend a California public university, hopefully you can limit your need to borrow through a combination of savings, maybe community scholarships, student loans and (hopefully) family assistance.

Scroll through the comments to find the posts that offer advice for your path forward.

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And find out how much money your parents can put towards your college costs each year.

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i just always hear people saying they are able to negotiate aid at various schools. my parents have funding, just not enough for berkeley. we do not have $200k+ just for college. when they began saving, i think the cost of attendance was lower possibly? i would also like to note that the tuition itself is not expensive, but ht overall cost of attendance is very high because of housing and other items. i did not understand or know that the majority of aid given at UCs is need-based necessarily and i appreciate that insight given by @Gumbymom :slight_smile: i also appreciate everyone’s help a lot and have concluded Berkeley is not an option but have learned a lot about this process and appreciate the advice and feedback, and will be exploring other options

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I think that people typically negotiate aid at non-public schools.

Your best option then, if your parents don’t have the money saved up, is to take a gap year and apply to schools that will provide funding for your stats.

Work for a year to get your own spending income.

Or you could see if there are rolling admissions at schools that still have openings and will give you a merit scholarship for your tuition.
I’m not familiar with those but I think that @AustenNut might have some suggestions.