Is McGill a decent (or world-class) school?

<p>Being Canadian I think McGill is easily the best Canada has to offer. U of Toronto might be more famous on the global front (maybe 'cause it has the city’s name in it?) I’m not too sure about that. A few of my cousins go there now and they say it’s overrated, I guess it also depends on your major/department.</p>

<p>I will agree that it probably doesn’t rank among Harvard/Yale/Oxbridge because to put it simply, not everyone knows what McGill is - everyone knows what Harvard is. So in its own respective country, McGill is the best. In the world, it falls down the ranks a little.</p>

<p>Hope this helps.</p>

<p>The title of Harvard of Canada is ludicrous but it belongs to McGill, who cares really. I wouldn’t say any school is as prestigious the reason UofT isn’t is because it has way too many students and Queen’s because it doesn’t have the international rep of McGill, UofT and UBC.</p>

<p>I agree with spongebodge. In Academics, McGill could be compared to Harvard because while its admission rate is high, its graduation rate is pretty low. But global reputation? McGuill cannot be Harvard.</p>

<p>on sidenote, I don’t know why Queen’s is being talked about. It’s really not a great school (by CC standard, of course)</p>

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Eh? Harvard accepted 7% and graduated 97% last year. That doesn’t seem like a high admission rate and low graduation rate to me.</p>

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Berkeley and Michigan (35409 and 41042) do quite well with student bodies not much smaller than Toronto’s main campus (44219).</p>

<p>with the whole “40% acceptance rate” thing, keep in mind that Canada has a smaller population than the US so it’s obviously less competitive to get into schools.</p>

<p>Hey, a lot of CCers want to go major in economics, right?</p>

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<ol>
<li>UBC</li>
<li>Toronto</li>
<li>Montreal</li>
<li>Queen’s</li>
<li>McGill</li>
</ol>

<p>Maybe McGill is good in other departments?</p>

<p>yeah McGill isn’t known for it’s business/economics departments. Arts and Sciences are great though.</p>

<p>Out in the REAL WORLD, McGill and U of Toronto are considered world class institutions. If you are prepared for the Canadian winters, you can do much much worse than to choose either one of these.</p>

<p>agreed^!!!</p>

<p>I’d also like to restate that acceptance rates in Canada cannot be compared to the States. Canada’s population is smaller than the states’ so there is less demand on the Universities. Therefore, they can accept a higher percent of the applicants</p>

<p>I would consider it in the same league as a strong state school like UT-Austin or UCSD.</p>

<p>I think of McGill as totally top-notch.</p>

<p>From The Princeton Review</p>

<p>McGill University</p>

<p>Academics</p>

<p>“McGill University in Montreal, Quebec enjoys “international name recognition,” and it’s “unapologetically a top-notch, high-powered research university.” Many resources rival the best anywhere in the world. “The libraries are amazing.” Other facilities are “rather shabby,” though, and “McGill is unique in that the administration tends to go against the students’ society (SSMU).” The administration is “extremely tedious” and “difficult to navigate.” “The sheer amount of red tape, inefficiency, and incompetence is astounding.” Also, while registration is “fantastically easy,” some students “would have appreciated better academic guidance.” “McGill forces you to take responsibility for yourself,” cautions a biology major. “Nobody’s going to be coddling you, but “once you figure out how to make the school work for you, things are mostly smooth sailing.” ” There are more than 300 areas of study, and “there does not seem to be a lot of integration between disciplines.” Some classes have “over 500 students.” Other classes “are not nearly as large.” The faculty is a seriously mixed bag. Some professors are “amazingly passionate, talented, dedicated, and interesting” and they “genuinely care about students.” Many others are “very disinterested in teaching” or “barely fluent in English.” For many students, the workload is “exhausting.” “A ‘B+’ deserves a pat on the back” here and the struggle for good grades can be “cutthroat.” Other students aren’t as competitive, though, and McGill offers an “easy life for those who just want to pass.” “The academic seriousness of each individual student largely correlates to their chosen major.””</p>

<p>Student Body</p>

<p>"Students here describe themselves as “very smart.” They’re also “good looking” and they don’t mind telling you so. Beyond those characteristics, the undergraduate population is widely varied. “Diversity is one of McGill’s best advantages.” It’s “a melting pot of eclectic people of different cultures and backgrounds.” “This environment doesn’t allow for cookie cutters,” relates a junior. “There are many niches for students to be able to find a place.” The international contingent is huge. “McGill recruits students from all over the world” who “speak several languages and have multiple citizenships” “A lot of people seem to take themselves too seriously and always want to win an argument,” says a junior. Others are “really down to earth.” There are “plenty of preppy students” and “rich, white kids who grew up in Toronto and attended private high school.” Other students are emphatically “middle class.” There are “jeans-clad, beer-drinking, indie pop-listening” students. There are “academically devoted students, late-night party fiends, hippies,” and “elitist, fashion-victim” “scenesters” “adhering to the latest style.” Other students are “crunchy,” “cry-baby social activists.” Still others are “major stoners.” McGill is also home to “one of the larger openly gay communities in Canada.” “We’re interesting kids,” reflects a sophomore. "</p>

<p>Campus Life</p>

<p>“McGill has a “gorgeous campus,” “located in the heart of one of the world’s best cities.” Students can participate in hundreds of extracurricular clubs and organizations. Intramural sports are reasonably popular. Intercollegiate sports aren’t, though, and “school spirit is pretty low.” “It’s a DIY social experience but there’s something for everyone,” says a sophomore. Students say they “know when to buckle down and work hard.” When the time is right, many students “drink a lot,” “but it’s done with the same vigor that students give their school work and extra-curriculars.” The drinking age in Quebec is 18 and marijuana is not unheard of, but “the only people who really make a big deal about these things are the American students who come up here and are wowed by it all for their first year. Then they settle down and enjoy things in moderation like everyone else.” “Housing is not offered after first year so there is no choice” but to live off campus for most students. Nobody cares, though, because the “relatively cheap,” “wildly fun,” “quasi-European city” of Montreal is “one of the world’s greatest college towns.” There are “ethnic quarters with every culture and food imaginable.” “Nightlife is incomparable” and “the music scene is really good.” “There is never a night when there is nothing to do,” says a senior. “This is both a good and bad thing.” “Outdoorsy stuff” is also plentiful. “Mount Royal, which is a park just north of campus, has bike and running paths and a beautiful observatory overlooking the city at the top which is great for exercising and exploring when the weather is nice,” explains a junior. In the winter months, when the weather is decidedly not so nice, opportunities to hit the slopes are “very close.””</p>

<p>IBclass06, sorry. I didn’t state that clearly.
I meant McGuill could be compared to Harvard because even though McGuill seems easy becaue of its relatively high admission rate, its academics is so rigorous that only a handful of people graduate.
Didn’t mean that Harvard had low graduation rate</p>

<p>“I would consider it in the same league as a strong state school like UT-Austin or UCSD.”</p>

<p>actually, all the international rankings I’ve seen put it around UCLA level</p>

<p>^ i was thinking in terms of selectivity. but in terms of research output, i’m sure you’re right.</p>

<p>well, as I said before, the lower selectivity makes perfect sense
Canadian population: 33,000,000
US population: 304,000,000</p>

<p>less applicants=less selective</p>

<p>heres a link to world rankings from US News
[World’s</a> Best Colleges and Universities: Top 200 - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-and-universities-top-200.html]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-and-universities-top-200.html)</p>

<p>Mcgill is #20 in the world
ahead of Carnegie Mellon, UCLA, Brown(ivy league), Northwestern, UC Berkeley, NYU etc.</p>

<p>It’s not Princeton or Caltech, but it’s reputation is world known, and it’s probably to say that outside of the US it is better known than CMU. Ide say your best comparisons are UMICH and UCLA.</p>

<p>Here are some more rankings based on specific areas of study</p>

<p>Engineering/IT
[World’s</a> Best Colleges: Top Engineering and IT Universities - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-top-engineering-and-it-universities.html]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-top-engineering-and-it-universities.html)
McGill is #18, one place ahead of Harvard, enough said</p>

<p>Natural Sciences
[World’s</a> Best Colleges: Top Natural Sciences Universities - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-top-natural-sciences-universities.html]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-top-natural-sciences-universities.html) </p>

<h1>22, ahead of Columbia, UMichigan,</h1>

<p>Life Sciences and Biomedical
[World’s</a> Best Colleges: Top Life Sciences and Biomedicine Universities - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-top-life-sciences-and-biomedicine-universities.html]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-top-life-sciences-and-biomedicine-universities.html)</p>

<h1>10, ahead of UCLA, Caltech, Cornell, Columbia, Duke, Princeton, UMich, Uchicago</h1>

<p>Arts and Humanities
[World’s</a> Best Colleges: Top Arts and Humanities Universities - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-top-arts-and-humanities-universities.html]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-top-arts-and-humanities-universities.html)</p>

<h1>13, ahead of Cornell, NYU, UMich, Duke, Brown, UPenn</h1>

<p>Social Sciences
[World’s</a> Best Colleges: Top Social Sciences Universities - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-top-social-sciences-universities.html]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-colleges/2008/11/20/worlds-best-colleges-top-social-sciences-universities.html)</p>

<h1>14, cornell, umich, duke, nyu, upenn</h1>

<p>juliushark, I stopped looking at those rankings you posted when I saw that the UIUC was ranked lower than Harvard in Engineering. In other words, you might as well ignore the Times. It is complete nonesense.</p>

<p>What is a legitimate world ranking then if US News/THE isn’t?</p>