Is Princeton really the best Undergraduate school?

<p>Seems to me there is a bit of overreaction here to an obvious ■■■■■ post. I believe our friend, currently posting as “Sammy35” is now the proud holder of more than a dozen different screen names, all of which seem to disappear not long after creation. Still, his distortions require a response. Here’s mine.</p>

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<p>SAT Averages</p>

<p>As may not have been obvious from the statistics Kwu posted above, last year’s freshman class at Princeton had the second highest SAT averages of any freshman college class in the country. Princeton lagged only Caltech. In third place was Yale with Harvard and MIT in fourth.</p>

<p>Class of 2015 SAT Averages
(average of verbal and math)</p>

<p>1525 = Caltech
1500 = Princeton
1495 = Yale
1490 = Harvard, MIT
1455 = Stanford</p>

<p>Yield</p>

<p>While Princeton has a lower matriculation rate than Harvard and Stanford, it was nearly identical to (apparently even slightly higher than) Yale’s this year. Now that Princeton and Yale are using the exact same admission systems (i.e. both SCEA) their yields have balanced out. Stanford’s matriculation rate has long been higher than either Princeton’s or Yale’s, though the comparison is difficult because of the athletic scholarships offered by Stanford that cannot be offered in the Ivy League.</p>

<p>Major Scholarships</p>

<p>In terms of winning major national awards, the record of Princeton students and alumni is astounding. Princeton leads all other schools in the country on a per capita basis for the combination of the major scholarships. In many individual awards it leads in absolute numbers with the exception of the Rhodes where Harvard has a clear lead. In absolute numbers, Princeton is second in the nation (behind Harvard) for Marshall Scholars.</p>

<p>Combined Rhodes, Marshall, Gates, Hertz, Goldwater, Luce, Churchill and Truman Scholars for 2011/2012 School Year</p>

<p>19—Princeton
12—Stanford
10—Harvard, Yale
9----Berkeley, MIT
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6----Caltech, Cornell</p>

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<p>Graduate School Statistics</p>

<p>Harvard’s graduate school of arts and sciences has an overall matriculation rate of about 60% compared to Princeton’s 50% but an exact comparison is nearly impossible since the mix of programs at the two schools is different. Harvard has nothing like the 90% Graduate School of Arts and Sciences (GSAS) matriculation rate claimed by Sammy35.</p>

<p>Graduate School of Arts and Sciences Matriculation</p>

<p>Harvard = 61%
Princeton = 52%</p>

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<p>These ■■■■■ posts never cease to amaze me. The persistence of this particular poster is legendary here on the Princeton board. </p>