<p>dude greylizzie, what in the world are u doing, as soon as someone insults smoking, or disagrees with smoking or in ur opinion detracts from the topic…u insult them personally. 1of42 along with citygirlmom totally destroyed ur viewpoints with logic and intelligence, u came back at them with personal insults. What did u expect to get out of this post, people are intelligent, and they know smoking is a huuuugee turnoff.</p>
<p>liz, you asked a question, people answered and you insulted them, using ad hominem arguments to try and prove your point…they logically responded to your arguments and even when frrph gave you a little boost and gave some decent arguments to help your case, you insulted him and basically told him to go away! (At least that’s how I read it… you didn’t refer to anyone in particular… but considering what you said.)</p>
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<p>I really want to know you can say “[smokers] aren’t the problem”? Sure, tobacco companies make the cigarettes but do they force you to smoke them? If someone murders another person with a gun, do you go blaming it on the gun manufacturer or on the gunmen?
Sure, the tobacco industry may be partially to blame because they are manufacturing a product that is meant for ONLY the purpose of smoking (whereas guns can be used for other things such as the military, hunting, or self-protection) but…really… capitalist economies rely on the consumer to determine what is made, so the responsibility for what companies develop still ultimately lies on…YOU!</p>
<p>The second-hand smoke argument is only significant when talking about closed spaces like bars and restuarants by the way.</p>
<p>actually, lebedev, that’s not entirely true. conclusive evidence has shown that second-hand smoke is present in both indoor and outdoor environments in potentially harmful doses. The question is whether outdoor environments disperse the chemicals quickly enough to prevent harmful doses to people nearby and the jury there is still out, last I heard.</p>
<p>And on windy days when the smoke from smokers blows straight out of their mouth and into my face.</p>
<p>Smoking is a turn off for me.</p>
<p>It makes my eyes watery and I don’t like my clothes smelling like it when I sit next to a guy who smokes.</p>
<p>I’m not going to read 9 pages of argumentative posts. I just wanted to answer the question and leave. </p>
<p>Goodbye.</p>
<p>did you expect people to say that for most they don’t mind smoking? is that the response you were hoping for?</p>
<p>sorry if you didn’t get the answer you wanted</p>
<p>I don’t care if you find smoking a huge turnoff, I asked you if you felt that way. If that’s what you think I can’t change that, just don’t **** with me.</p>
<p>To the original question: It’s a definite turnoff. I don’t think I’d not date anyone just because they smoked, but I wouldn’t like it.</p>
<p>ech no smokers for me. They smell like cigerettes and I hate how they blow smokes away from themselves, but usually toward other people around them. I experimented and smoking isn’t too hot. XP</p>
<p>I think guys who smoke in pictures look hot, but when the physical smoke and smell is added in real life… uhh… not for me.</p>
<p>Its not true smokers necessarily die early because my great grandmother smoked a pack or two every day lived til she was 93 or something. I also heard it actually prevents breast cancer (because all cancers vary heavily from each other… yeah don’t forget about lung cancer) but that’s just from a book i was reading. I don’t know where they got that info from though, ahah. Either way, can’t be good for you ^^;;;</p>
<p>Fat people don’t throw food bits at people around them. That’s why I don’t care if they pig out or whatever.</p>
<p>don’t like smoke or dip</p>
<p>It’s good that people are giving me their opinions.
That’s all I wanted.</p>
<p>turnoff for both sexes</p>
<p>I believe in moderation. I don’t like it when people become “addicted” to things - I take it as a sign of weakness. Because of this, I think addicted smokers are a turn-off. However, if someone smokes very rarely or a cigar now and then it wouldn’t bother me.</p>
<p>I really like this thread :). I am not an addicted smoker, and I don’t ever plan on becoming one. Like many people, I enjoy occasional cigarettes, but I do recognize their health risks, so like any other unhealthful product (alcohol, fattening foods…), I smoke only in moderation - maybe 3 or 5 every weekend. That being said, I would be fine dating a person who smokes.</p>
<p>Notice that I didn’t say “I would date a smoker.” Why is it that a person who smokes is no longer a person, but a dreaded “smoker.” We don’t say that “I won’t date an overeater,” but we do clump people who smoke into a human cesspool called “smokers.”</p>
<p>Personally, I think that a person can have far greater faults than smoking too much. How about deciding never to date a liar, or a cheater? I would rather date a smoker than liar. People aren’t perfect, and some people in the world smoke. It doesn’t make them any better or worse than their nonsmoking counterparts. </p>
<p>And on the topic of smoking bans, IMHO, fascism is way more unhealthy than smoking will ever be.</p>
<p>People here seem to be strongly againist smoking, which is fine. But after reading the rest of this thread, a question arose in my mind. It would seem that people object to regular smoking. </p>
<p>Would those who rejected the notion of dating “smokers” feel the same way about somebody who smokes something like a cigar or hookah in a social context every month or two? In other words, is somebody who almost never smokes, but does do it on rare occasion in groups, to expect the same reaction?</p>
<p>Even though I highly doubt I’d ever date someone who smokes all the time, I don’t think I would mind dating someone who only smoked occasionally. Especially if it were cigars or something like that since they remind me of the smell of my papaw’s homemade cigarettes.</p>
<p>I think that the person who started this thread is reffering to chronic smoking.</p>
<p>gprime: I’m pretty sure the obvious implication when the word “smoking” is used here is regular smoking caused by an addiction to nicotine, rather than either occasional weekend social smoking, or cigar/hookah/whatever. Personally, I’d be absolutely fine with a girl who did the latter, but no way in hell would I be cool with the former.</p>
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I love how people don’t consider smoking cigars or hookah to be “smoking.” Both involve the burning of tabacco products. Who cares if you just do those things once in a while…it’s like smoking a cigarette once in a while.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t date someone who smoked hookah or smoked cigars. I don’t feel bad about it because I obviously have the right to choose based on whatever I want.</p>