Hence the hundreds of thousands getting sponsored for H1B visas for jobs paying $100k plus. Apparently our “good enough” isn’t, for the current job openings for well paying jobs.
The mistake people make is thinking these schools are looking for scholars when they aren’t. They are looking for rowers, artists, kids from S. Dakota, violinists, FGLI etc, etc. Some students will, of course, be academic powerhouses - math olympiad gold medalists and the like - but those students are far from the majority.
I owe my living the American dream to the failures of the American education system! ![]()
Thank you…I thought I was reading that wrong. Hoping maybe (?)
Congratulations. A whole lot of Americans seem unaware of the global level of competition now. Glad you made it. We are lucky to have you.
This isn’t the forum for this type of conversation but I will say as someone who has for many years run large tech groups at multiple valley companies including a couple who reported in the last day or so that your simplification of a complex challenge is wildly incorrect in its implication. And that is not at all a knock on the very talented H1Bs who have worked directly for me or within my organizations over the years.
I am especially bothered that there is no easy way for students to truly understand the admissions difficulty of a school and how schools compare in admissions difficulty. Majors add to the challenge
Rankings, admit %… so misleading. Lots of disappointed families.
You are correct, that is off topic. I am certain that as part of your visa sponsorship you certified that you had made diligent efforts to find qualified citizens for the jobs, but were unable to do so, as you were required to do legally.
He is my favorite… His older stuff is really good
Rick Clark is outstanding in explaining the reality of admissions. I actually keep this bookmarked.
I don’t think that’s correct. I think if you go to many of the top high schools in the country, you’ll see that most of the top 10% are girls. I am talking private schools and public schools in high SES areas.
I was just reading about this somewhere. Now I have to remember where it was… I’ll post if I can find a link.
Edited to add: a lot of this has to do with maturity and girls performing better in school as a result of that. Which is why many top male students are either redshirted in kindergarten or take a PG year. The new advice for wealthy families is to hold your son back at the start of school. The theory is that will put them on a level playing field with the girls up through high school.
I totally agree. There are so many non profits founded by the current high school students. If they are so service minded and empathic, we would not have had the conflicts that we are seeing in colleges, especially the elite ones.
My son is at a top BS - he’s a scholarship kid, athlete, not from a wealthy family. I can assure you that the past 3-4 years have seen a MASSIVE decline in BS students going to elite colleges like the days of old. There was a Washington Post (or was it NY Times?) article about 6 weeks ago detailing some of these billionaire families bringing their kids back to public school their senior year because they had a better chance to get in a top college from public school than they did competing with all their BS classmates.
Here’s one article. I don’t know think it’s free though.
Here’s one paragraph:
By high school, the female advantage has become entrenched. The most common high-school grade for girls is now an A; for boys, it is a B. Twice as many girls as boys are in the top 10 percent of students ranked by GPA, and twice as many boys as girls are among those with the lowest grades. It’s an international pattern: Across economically advanced nations, boys are 50 percent more likely than girls to fail at all three key school subjects: math, reading, and science. In the U.S., almost one in five boys does not graduate high school on time, compared with one in 10 girls—the rate for boys is about the same as that for students from low-income families.
Was this it? Kids ditching prep schools for public to get into the Ivy League
That is the same guy who was profiled in the Intelligencer article about building the perfect college applicant.
Just getting caught up on this thread.
Both @Chekov and I won the holistic admissions lottery with our kids. So no sour grapes from either of us, and yet we both continue to be proponents of a more predictable admissions process.
This is veering a bit off topic, but to address the H1B issue, many US companies are hiring contractors though third party vendors rather than FTE’s. And it is typically the contracting/consulting companies that are hiring with the H1Bs.
That guy us really getting a boatload of free advertising through these publications.
That is part of the results, right? So need to change the system. I definitely don’t want that to be part of the results of the admissions process!
Now there are WAY more athletes being recruited IN to the prep schools. More than counteracts the trends you mention (which I agree is true).
You used to be able to work your way up to varsity levels from JV, now that is pretty rare from what I gather…they even bring in new Jr/Srs to make sure teams are great. This aspect is VERY differnet.
AND it used to be top athletes played different sports all 3 seasons…now they do “Strength training” and such when it isnt “their” sport season, so schools have to fill 2 more teams with even MORE top athletes.
They have big signing day events, etc. That is all new