Some Ivy League criminals that come to mind:
Michael Milken (Penn)
Michael Bruce Ross (serial killer) (Cornell)
Richard Herrin, Yale '76, killed his ex-girlfriend Bonnie Garland.
Robert Peace, Yale '02, was a drug dealer in Newark when he was murdered in 2011. His Yale roommate wrote a book about him that was published last year.
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Piper Kerman ( Orange Is The New Black) graduated from Smith.
And then there’s this fellow, Matthew Kluger, a graduate of Cornell, who was finally convicted of insider trading that he did for years. He received a very lengthy sentence and is still in prison. I worked with him in one company.
Ivy bashing again.
I don’t think it is necessarily ivy bashing, though it is idiotic IMO to attribute any characteristic to graduates of some schools that can’t be backed up (for example, it isn’t inaccurate to say that those who graduate from Liberty U or Bob Jones University are likely to be conservative Christians, given what the school is and why kids go there). On the other hand, it also is a counterweight to the mythology of the ivy league, that somehow they turn out these exemplary people who becomes masters of the universe and such by defailt, it simply shows that the people who go there and graduate are human.
It would be interesting, especially with the hype and hysteria around elite college admissions these days, if going forward the ‘winning admission anyway you can game’ shows in the people who come out of the elite, hard to get into schools.The schools themselves admit that they are concerned that admissions has become a system that is gamed, that they are afraid they are getting students with narrow tunnel vision, whose whole life has been spent trying to get into a top school, so will this become evident as time goes on, will the kids who did everything they could to get into an elite program, including in some cases cheating, getting SAT prep from a place that had the answers, etc, become useful citizens, or will we see a larger percentage of cheats and criminals? Obviously, it would need to be tested against a wide range of schools, but it would be interesting to see if the admissions game makes for a generation of sociopaths, or if the students revert to type, some become high fliers, some losers, some criminals, and a a lot ordinary people? My guess is that they won’t find much difference, that one of the amazing things that happens in college is even the kids of tiger parents and the like, grow up and find their center:)
Where did Lex Luthor go?
You’ve never heard of the really smart Ivy League criminals, because they haven’t been caught.
@hunt:
That always reminds me, don’t ask me why, of “The Brinks Job”, where those arrested for it were this variety of street types, who you wonder how they could pull something like that off, when they didn’t seem to have enough brains to get out of the rain…and who really was the mastermind. Reminds me of the mob, the idiots you saw on tv getting arrested were not the brains, the brains were smart enough to keep out of sight.
The really smart ivy league criminals don’t get caught because they chose the smartest thing of all, they find loopholes in the law to exploit, and make a ton of money before it becomes illegal:)
Who’s ‘Ivy bashing’? Half the people who’ve posted graduated from Ivies. I think the point of the thread was to inject a little humor into the Ivy-obsessed postings of desperate HS students.
One purpose of this thread is to show the Ivy obsessed that an Ivy league education does not guarantee a happy life…or say anything about a person’s mental health.
^^^ This!
^^^ And this!
Also, why should Hudson University get all the glory?
Oh yeah, that’s the reason for the thread!
Why are you questioning motives, @ams5796? I get some might not find the subject funny, but why are you implying that the OP’s intentions are any different than she states?
Ira Einhorn (Penn) murdered Holly Maddux (Bryn Mawr). He was known as the Unicorn and it was a big story in Philly.
Ted Kaczinsky (the Unibomber)–Harvard undergrad–started college at 16.
Anyone here remember the story of Margaret Bean-Bayog, Harvard graduate and psychiatrist? One of her patients, Harvard med student Paul Lozano, committed suicide, probably because of her “unconventional” treatment:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-03-16/features/9403160107_1_paul-lozano-dr-margaret-bean-bayog-medical-license
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1992/12/18/bean-bayog-case-ends-after-6-years/
What about Adam. B Wheeler? A compulsive liar who faked his way to so many colleges. Not as nefarious as the others aforementioned, but still surprising that he fooled the well trained admins.
@LucieTheLakie it’s quite tragic that a faculty member was a culprit.
Not so famous, except in our family, where my husband, wearing our son’s Cornell sweatshirt was walking on the side of the road facing traffic when he was hit from behind by a 52 yo UPenn graduate and left for dead. Fortunately, he survived, the perp was found, arrested, convicted and sentenced to jail.
This has come up before. One of my Yale classmates was beaten to death by her ex-boyfriend, who was two classes ahead of us, had recently graduated, and had been a member of the same residential college as she and I. It made a lot of news at the time, because of Yale, because of the contrast between a rich, preppy, WASPy, somewhat wild woman from Westchester County involved with a working-class, Catholic, Chicano scholarship student from East LA, and because the victim’s parents became very upset at the degree to which the killer was being supported by the Yale Catholic community (of which he had been a very active member).