Ivy Ranks!!

Colleges & Universities Princeton University
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<p>Here are a few others. Source for all is COHE 2005(courtesy of dear posterX)</p>

<p>library books/student (do you have to wait for recalls?)
Yale University 1100
Harvard University 820
Princeton University 810
Dartmouth College 520
Brown University 470
Columbia University 440
Cornell University 330
University of Pennsylvania 290</p>

<p>library expenditure/student (are there enough quality resources in general? are the lights in the library burned out?)</p>

<p>Yale University $6,300
Harvard University $5,400
Princeton University $4,500
Dartmouth College $3,500
Brown University $2,500
Columbia University $2,400
Cornell University $1,800
University of Pennsylvania $1,600</p>

<p>serial subscriptions/student (are there a lot of magazines and rare scholarly journals to read?)</p>

<p>Dartmouth College 10
Princeton University 8
Yale University 7
Harvard University 5
Brown University 4
Columbia University 4
Cornell University 4
University of Pennsylvania 2</p>

<p>library staff/100students (are staff friendly, available, helpful, and willing to help you find that obscure item for your paper? note this is permanent staff only; colleges also hire student workers but those are not tracked here)</p>

<p>Harvard University 5.7
Yale University 5.7
Princeton University 4.4
Dartmouth College 3.6
Brown University 2.4
Columbia University 2.4
Cornell University 1.9
University of Pennsylvania 1.5</p>

<p>Rather obvious which ones should be ranked last…Don’t u think? (unless personal preference, of course…)</p>

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<p>MovieBuff, I’m afraid you (and our Yale friend, the mysterious posterX) have got it wrong on the Fulbrights. You are reporting last year’s numbers. The awards announcement hasn’t taken place yet for this year. See the following article in the Yale Daily News and you’ll see the reference. Yale has thirteen Fulbrights so far this year (18 offers, five of which were turned down). It remains to be seen what the final counts will be. Princeton and Harvard haven’t reported their Fulbright numbers for this year.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/21019[/url]”>http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/21019&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>“The Institute is not officially affiliated with the University.”</p>

<p>Really, can I apply to just Woody Woo and not go through Princeton?</p>

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<p>the reference is to the institute for advanced study in princeton, NJ, and not to the woodrow wilson school (the latter of which is very much a part of princeton university).</p>

105

<p>How selective is Woody Wood? Would a student hedge his entire college decision based on trying to get into WW be making a relatively bad bet?</p>

106

<p>@PtonGrad2000… I was referring to the most recent awards…The deadline for applications for 2007, is August 1st. Thank you for your clarification. It really changes everything…(?)</p>

<p>BTW, posterX is not any more mysterious than PtonGrad2000 for that matter…</p>

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<p>For which i would like to attend most is:

  1. princeton
  2. yale
  3. harvard
  4. cornell
  5. brown
  6. dartmouth
  7. columbia
  8. upenn</p>

<p>i think… gotta see</p>

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<p>This library logic is absurd. Anything with “per student” will skew towards smaller schools.</p>

<p>Take serial subscriptions. Brown has 4/student, whereas Penn has 2/student. But oh wait…4 x 5000 brown undergrads vs 2 x 10000 penn undergrads…you do the math.</p>

<p>If these COHE studies include grad students (which I do not know), then Penn comes out far ahead:
4 x 7600 brown students vs 2 x 19800 penn students…</p>

<p>Besides, who uses the size of a library to quantify the excellence of students or faculty?</p>

<p>There are lies, damn lies, and statistics…</p>

109

<p>Ivies + MIT + Stanford Tiers (Prestige)</p>

<ol>
<li><p>HYPS</p></li>
<li><p>MIT, Columbia</p></li>
<li><p>UPenn, Dartmouth, Brown</p></li>
<li><p>Cornell</p></li>
</ol>

<p>UPenn is the only school of all these that has significantly risen over the last decade, IMO. It could soon push itself up another tier, but it won’t happen until the Whartonites stop indirectly hurting Penn’s overall reputation by asserting their part is so much better.
Cornell will forever be considered the “worst” Ivy simply because its size prevents selectivity…and it has an interior design major.</p>

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<p>amen, sister</p>

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<p>double amen</p>

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<p>MovieBuff, no, you’re still a little confused here. The award counts which you are providing for the Fulbrights are not the most recent. They are last year’s, not this year’s. This year’s awards are just now being announced, as the Yale Daily News article points out. A large number of Yale undergraduates applied this year but the total number who have won the fellowship is not yet known.</p>

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<p>in the last five years, brown undergrads have won the most fulbright awards in the ivy league with a total of 89. the closest any other school has come is 56 (princeton). harvard has had 39
<a href=“http://media.www.browndailyherald.com/media/storage/paper472/news/2006/09/21/CampusNews/U.s-Recent.Fulbright.Success.For.Undergrads.Tops.Other.Ivies-2289696.shtml[/url]”>http://media.www.browndailyherald.com/media/storage/paper472/news/2006/09/21/CampusNews/U.s-Recent.Fulbright.Success.For.Undergrads.Tops.Other.Ivies-2289696.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

113

<p>Princeton students have been awarded more Marshall scholarships than any other school except Harvard, with 116 recipients…so I think everyone’s doing OK around the Ivies.</p>

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<p>It depends on if we’re talking undergrad or overall. Harvard and Yale are clearly better overall than they are in straight undergrad.</p>

<p>For undergrad:

  1. Princeton
  2. Brown
  3. Yale
  4. Columbia
  5. UPenn
  6. Harvard
  7. Dartmouth
  8. Cornell</p>

<p>That’s my two cents.</p>

115

<p>Dartmouth and Brown have the best undergrad education out of all of the Ivies. So, I don’t know why you ranked Dartmouth so low.</p>

116

<p>i agree. (10 chars)</p>

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<p>My preference…</p>

<ol>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>UPenn</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
</ol>

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<p>only ■■■■■■■ to go to Cornell</p>

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<p>haha what is that you go to cornell and you say something like that lol</p>

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<p>i agree…it’s because cornell is considered a “backup” school in many minds…(im going to Cornell…) Here are my rankings based on research and perception…</p>

<p>1.Harvard
2. Princeton
3. Yale
4. Columbia
5. U Penn
6. Brown
7. Cornell
8. Dartmouth</p>