I understand that some sports, particularly woman’s sports, commit early but I was curious how the early commitments work with the Ivy’s as the coaches only have so many LLs to offer for each sport. So if it is a true commitment by both sides, the LLs are spoken for well in advance ( a year +) and the recruit has committed to apply their senior year ED/EA.
My kid didn’t commit until fall of Sr. year so no issue with timing and applying.
I think we’ve sort of changed topics here (and the OP didn’t actually ask about this), but yes:
That’s how it works for sports where the commitments happen early. The Ivies (and other schools with LL) fill their spots with commitments on the athletic schedule (whether that’s three months or eighteen months before applications are opened, and whether those commitments are contingent on test scores or not), the student applies during the standard ED cycle, and the LLs are sent after the early application is received. (Then there’s a little scrambling in the few cases where things go sideways.)
I was referring to a men’s sport at Ivies. Offers are made and accepted in good faith. IMO, coaches are experienced enough to guess if the athlete will be fine. Every once in a while it doesn’t work out and then the coach can make a late offer to someone else.
ETA - I don’t know when you participated in the process, but for several sports it wasn’t until 2018 that the timeline for recruiting and OVs moved from the start of Sr. year to start of Jr. year. As the NCAA made an effort to curb super early recruiting for sports like lacrosse, they anticipated others to put everyone on a similar timeline. A mistake, IMO, particularly for sports like mens T&F and mens swimming, where there is a lot of development Jr and Sr years.
The OP asked a very specific question with regards to her kid. That is the topic of this thread.
For questions on general recruiting, including Likely Letters, one can peruse past threads on the topic. If the question remains unanswered, please start a new thread.
Stumbled upon this thread late and the OP’s child has probably already gone (or not) to the visit, but…
It’s not that long ago that the NCAA spelled out what could and couldn’t be paid for on an OV visit - travel for the athlete, meals on campus, visit could only last 48 hours. Parents could attend but school could only pay for 1 meal for two parents and 3 total tickets to an athletic event (didn’t have to be the sport for which your child was being recruited). My daughter went on one trip to which we drove so they paid for a hotel room for her but since she was 16 I had to sign in to the room and I stayed there too. One night! No meals for me and I didn’t even get invited to the game. For another visit, I flew with her but I paid for everything, including my hotel and the coach didn’t even invite me to the campus tour (daughter called me to go with her). I didn’t feel that welcomed at all and she didn’t even consider the school after that weekend, and I didn’t encourage it.
That changed a few years ago because 17 year olds were being recruited for D1 football and their parents couldn’t afford to go on a trip and pay for themselves.
But what may not have changed is the recruiting budget. The school may not be able to pay for 3 air tickets for every recruit, or may not want to for a 15-16 year old who is still a year out from deciding and from SAT scores to know if they are even getting in.
As for nickel and diming, the athletes get what they get. Ivies have no scholarships, so you are talking about uniforms and facilities, where they stay when they travel (and don’t expect Ritz Carlton, more like Holiday Inn Express), food… My daughter’s coach did a lot better with the food budget than the men’s coach in the same sport, but he had a bigger team and much bigger appetites to feed so he went with family style pasta meals and she went with a $15 meal budget at a restaurant. Your daughter can ask those questions and see if she cares about lifting at 6 am rather than 7.
Do some teams get more? Yep. Do some teams get bad work out times? Yep. Do some coaches use their budgets to buy new cleats and uniforms every year? Yep (not my daughter’s, and I think she wore the same (white!} jersey for 4 years. (It was pretty bad by the end).
In the end, I don’t think your daughter will be deciding by which team served her pasta and which team steak.
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