<p>hmm what i told was purely the fact that in India and the UK Johns Hopkins is less known than UPenn ( i passed a genral comment abt austrailia so i may be wrong abt that as i asked only a small sample of people) . DOes it really matter what Penn students say about penn thats not even the question here. The rankings you talk about are utter ********, if you want to argue with me that Johns Hopkins is better than IIT in India ( which is 41 in one ranking and doesnt figure in others) in engineering then go ahead and argue. Ask anyone and I mean ANYONE who is well versed with this knowledge ( MIT grad or stanford grad) they will agree. </p>
<p>Perstige wise i must say they are the same, its just a matter of how many people more know abt penn than JHU . ( maybe jhu doesnt advertise itself as much to the international community)</p>