THX a lot!
Also, is it still possible to get a job with a JMU CIS degree in case I want to go out of NoVA/DC/MD/WV? Will it be very difficult?
of course its possible to get a job anywhere with a JMU degree. Just because JMU is not as well know nationwide doesn’t mean you won’t get a job.
As I have said before - you are overthinking this. Go to the college you think you will be most comfortable and you will be fine. The college with the atmosphere you want will be the one you are most successful at. If your still that torn between JMU and VT go to an open house for each of the departments and hear from the staff.
Virginia Tech - go to this page - pick dates and will show department information sessions available (you would want dept of engineering for CS, COS session for CDMA, Pamplin session for BIT)
JMU I don’t see where they have daily departmental sessions - you may have to contact them for options. If you have been accepted JMU then they have CHOICES accepted students open house coming up where you can visit with each department.
VT has similiar day for accepted students called Hokie Focus
https://vt.edu/admissions/undergraduate/visit/hokie-focus.html
THX a lot for this also. JMU at VT are colleges that I’m seriously thinking about, but still waiting on others to see for better options. (JMU has replied yes, VT I’m sure I’ll get into AIS and Pamplin, but most likely not Engg)
@cbl1 , ranking REALLY doesn’t matter between JMU and VT business right? Isn’t where I’m happy is the best the highest ranked college for me?
Also, isn’t JMU business better than VCU COB?
I would rank JMU and Virginia Tech business on a similiar tier (with VT slightly higher because as I have mentioned more national reach). I would rank VCU a lower tier. My personal opinion.
Where you are happiest will be the best.
lala - what major did you apply to at VT. You will be accepted based on what you applied for. If you applied engineering and don’t get accepted you will be denied (you can’t then chose another major). If you applied to Pamplin and get in you will have to work hard to be able to switch major to Engineering (they are very limited in spots available to transfer into … so you can’t go in expecting to be able to transfer to Engineering).
I actually applied to Pamplin in the 1st place. Is it easy to transfer from BIT-DSS to CMDA (in AIS)? I think I can get into Pamplin.
I really really hope so… My biggest debate now is between CMDA and JMU CIS, but I don’t want to start a new, long post. I don’t think I can go wrong with either.
I didn’t have a problem with VT itself. It was just the BIT-DSS major and its lack of coding/CS. I want as much coding as possible (within a businessy degree, like JMU CIS. After all, it is CAC-ABET accredited!), but I don’t want to a CS major (no theory for me!!!).
For jobs, salary, data science and extra rigor, I think that CMDA is better than JMU CIS, but if I want a broader education, I think that JMU is better.
Is CMDA or CIS a broader and more lucrative major? I think CIS is broader, but CMDA is more lucrative. Am I right?
I had thought that the CMDA program is relatively new at VT. If so, there’s not going to be lot of info on prospects of transferring into CDMA from other colleges (in your case Pamplin) - unlike attempts to transfer into CoE which is known to be a real challenge.
If you are accepted into Pamplin, the 1st thing you need to do is contact VT by phone to see what the process is to change that major (or if you can even do so and gain admission to CMDA from the start of your freshman year). I am almost 100% certain that the 1st year math requirement (and possibly others) will be different for CMDA than it is for business majors. So you will need to be very careful with your course selection.
You won’t be able to change your major until December of Freshman year. But that won’t be an issue at all.
Actually it is easy to transfer in to CDMA from Pamplin. My son has been on the fence between the 2 so his advisor recommended not dropping his Pamplin Major (since transfering into Pamplin is more limited) and add the major in AIS in Science department as a second major (in addition to his Science Tech and Law minor that is also in the AIS department.
He spoke to the advisor then in the AIS department and she added his second major and the minor (no restrictions or issues).
So if you get in Pamplin you can easily transfer major over to CDMA or add CMDA as a second major (after your first semester). Either way there is nothing to stop you from putting some CMDA required classes on your schedule Freshman 1st semester.
Is it hard to do a double major in the both degrees? I’m coming with Calc BC, Stats, Macro/Microecon, Chem and Phys 1.
He doesn’t intend to do both majors - but by adding the AIS department in as second degree he doesn’t lose his spot in Pamplin … in case he decides that he does want to end up doing Pamplin. Gives him time to be accepted and in both majors before making a final decision and dropping one (and thus not having to worry about not getting in his preferred major later).
His advisor told him it gives him about 2 semesters to decide if he wants to leave Pamplin. At that point the rule will kick in saying that he has not completed enough core classes in Pamplin within so many credit hours to continue the major and would then have to drop it.
My son had over 30 credit hours coming in from high school so he has a little more time than some to explore options. He was actually classified as a sophmore coming in.
You better check your checksheets and then double check with the CDMA department. First year CoB students take a single semester math course that is completely different than the 2 semester requirements for other colleges - and you are automatically going to be enrolled in that course as well as potentially some others as an incoming CoB student. At minumum it sounds like you could end up taking coursework that may not apply to your desired major (unless the idea of taking a 4 credit math class as one of your electives somehow appeals to you).
Nope… Math for me is a necessary evil. guess I’ll figure it out in the fall at VT (if at all I go) or stick with Bit-dss as my major.
My son didn’t intend to move out of Pamplin originally but just found interests on the science side while there … so yes its possible his Business Math class was redudent. If someone came in as a business major intending to change majors after 1st semester I don’t see them blocking them from taking the normal 2 semester calculus instead.
@“1lalalalala!lalalalalala!” You’ll need to figure it out (read: contact the university and advisors for both programs proactively) before the fall. Your initial course selection will take place at orientation, and you will be placed into certain classes automatically based on your major/college. You need to familiarize yourself with the differences in course requirements so you can request adjustments. Looking at CMDA w/ no option selected vs. BIT-DSS, here’s an example of the pitfalls:
BIT-DSS you are going to be auto-enrolled into an ACIS and Bus Calc class in first semester. CMDA majors look like they are going to be enrolled in an intro CS class and the first of a 2-semester Calc class. If you don’t get clarification/approval in advance, that’s 7 credit hours in coursework you could be taking (BIT) that otherwise you could use for free elective or major-oriented choices. And that’s just first semester. The differences widen if you get into semester #2. What if the CS class openings are all taken by incoming CMDA or other majors? Etc., etc.
Point is - don’t wait until your meeting with advising @ orientation and freak out while you try to get a handle on this. I have no idea what your financial or transfer credit situation is, but why would you burn credits on courses you don’t need/like or extend the # of credit hours you take and pay for due to insufficient planning? You’ve posted questions/concerns on this thread about what will happen 4-15 years from now…focus that inquiry on planning for 6 months from now and I think you’ll be glad you did.