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Some of this introvertedness started long before Covid. My youngest is now 30 and I remember his high school teachers telling me he’s one of the few gifted kids that can actually look adults in the eyes and carry on a conversaton with them. To this day it frustrates him when he’s trying to participate in or organize a meeting and everyone his age and younger only wants to email or text or heaven forbid Zoom if it needs to be “in person” - yeah, they consider that “in person” even when they are in the same building - why go up a flight or two when I can Zoom in. Crazy. They don’t know how to discuss geography or non-political current events or even the weather. They are just completely flumoxed talking to someone in person or on the phone and divert their eyes like they are guilty of something. They are not unintelligent, they are just out of their element and have no desire to change. Drives my son nuts - he said “I’m 30 and I feel like a Boomer.”
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Gift article for the above. There is an interactive tool to do it by campus and/or search by company.
Edit: the data in the article is based on UC data found here:
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Anyone see the NYT article on the Purdue CS student who could only get a job at Chipotle post graduation? Honestly feels like clickbait and apparently the publicity helped her land a tech sales job so who knows.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/10/technology/coding-ai-jobs-students.html
How does the leadership development program work? If she gets a job offer at the end of this summer does she go back for additional internships after sophomore and junior years? It seems like she could still go through MBB recruitment next summer and not tell her current company until she has a potential offer. We didn’t have the same issue, but my S applied to MBB internships during the summer after sophomore year and had an offer before junior year started. It seems like your D could at least apply next summer and see if she can get an interview.
Curious if the kid from the southern school had any internship experience? As an observer of my kids and their friends the ones without internships don’t get jobs regardless of their academic prowess. The ones with multiple internships seem to have multiple offers.
Also agree that communication majors are at a disadvantage which could also be an issue.
That used to be the case, but it’s pretty rare these days for the vast majority of graduating students to have multiple offers, even if they have interned every year through college.
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Companies also seem to give incentives to make sure the people they extend offers to don’t shop around. My D’s company still tells their co-ops that if they accept their offers before they leave for the summer before senior year, they get their pick of locations and a bigger signing bonus (double). In the last three co-op cohorts, including this year, they’ve had 100% conversion from co-op to full time positions in the company ELDP.
That is also a sign of the times too because the year before my D graduated only about 75% of the co-ops stayed on after graduation.
I’ve also been hearing more about exploding offers with pretty short timelines to commit.
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We’re still not quite sure yet. We know theyve hinted that she’ll be given one of the spots in this program (her current internship leader gave her rave reviews and spoke to HR about the L&D opportunity). They’ll tell her very soon (end of summer) so right around when school starts.
So next summer she’ll probably be in this L&D program.
Now, Im not sure when MBB does recruiting but if they do it in the sophmore spring then she can obviously interview for those assuming that her participation in this L/D program is not explicit that she’ll be doing her end of junior year internship there.
The L&D internship is meant to be a fast track to a full time job since there arent that many and they restricted the applications only to current interns.
I think she should explore her options. She’s not quite sure yet. She loves the company and the reality is that if she works in corporate, her quality of life will be much better than if she killed herself working crazy hours at some consulting job (assuming she even lands one - which is a longshot).
My son said his company has hired similarly in volumes to when he was hired - doesn’t see any changes.
I don’t have NY Times subscription but Boston.com re-printed the article about that Purdue grad applying for Chipotle. There several other new graduates in the article that have experienced rejections after rejections. It is depressing for the kids and their parents.
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Sadly many of the chance mes we see are people chasing what’s hot today. Whether CS has cooled this much or these folks just have bad luck I don’t know ….
And for those who say kids don’t go to college to get a job….well you’re likely in the minority in that thought.
I hope this doesn’t impact other early career folks - a year or two in.
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The girl in the article seems to have had no internships and some of the other people quoted went to coding bootcamps and other less rigorous cs programs. I’m not sure how much of this anecdata is evidence of a trend vs cherry picked outliers for storytelling convenience.
Still the macro narrative plus the actual layoff data does present a grim picture.
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It will be interesting to see the first school reports.
We know from the 2008 downturn that those entering the workforce during a downturn are set back in their careers for more than a decade, presumably because starting with extended unemployment or a worse (for career development) job makes developing ones career more difficult.
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May be time for an anonymized cc class of 2026 survey if there is enough interest.
Purdue released their data from the class of '24. 5573 students responded to the survey. The percentage of students seeking employment jumped from 2.88% for the class of '23 to 8.54% for the class of '24. 10.65% of CS grads are still seeking employment. 19.92% of computer engineering grads are still seeking employment (up from 3% last year). Pretty sobering numbers 
The data base is searchable by college and major: Purdue CCO
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Could this be like 2001-2003 again, when computing employment crashed after the overinflated .com bubble burst at the same time offshore outsourcing became a really big business fad?
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