<p>^^that’s a cheap shot, even for you, razorsharp.</p>
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<p>I think you should quit while you have a shred of dignity left. If the black tradition is exemplified by these two then there isn’t much hope. Why try to defend these two losers? They are clearly racists in ministerial clothing. Fortunately no one group is defined or judged as a whole because of such a small number of people.</p>
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<p>I somehow find it hard to believe that an evangelical could look past homosexuality or abortion. I don’t know many so I could be speaking out of turn but the ones I know would eat dirt before voting for a pro-choice, gay marriage proponent.</p>
<p>I belong to an evangelical church, and there are quite a few people in our church who believe as calmom indicated. (myself included) I recently talked to a neighbor, who belongs to a different evangelical church and who was always extremely conservative. She voted for Bush both times–a fact she now regrets. She is supporting Obama this election. So yes, there are many evangelicals who can look beyond the two hot button issues.</p>
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No, the cheap shot was when Calmom insulted pmrl by saying do you mean “most white people”.</p>
<p>The only difference between sharpton, jackson and wright is that sharpton and jackson are smart enough not to admit their racist views.</p>
<p>I must be mistaken. I didn’t think those things were negotiable. Guess I was wrong.</p>
<p>I didn’t let calmom’s comment get to me. I just considered the source and moved on. No worries. The comment didn’t make me look bad.</p>
<p>I supported Jesse Jackson when he ran for president in 1984 & 1988- as did 21% of Democratic primary voters in 1984, and 6.9 million voters in 1988. So I don’t appreciate your ad hominem labeling of him. I am also old enough to remember when people spoke of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. the same way. </p>
<p>So I don’t accept the demeaning of him or denigrating of his religious credentials simply because you disagree with his politics.</p>
<p>I don’t disagree with his politics at all. If that’s all it was then there would be no beef. How about these?</p>
<p>[Washingtonpost.com</a> Special Report: Clinton Accused](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/frenzy/jackson.htm]Washingtonpost.com”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/frenzy/jackson.htm)</p>
<p>Let’s add some blatant hypocrisy</p>
<p>[Jesse</a> Jackson calls for Seinfeld boycott - TV Squad](<a href=“http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/11/28/jesse-jackson-calls-for-seinfeld-boycott/]Jesse”>http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/11/28/jesse-jackson-calls-for-seinfeld-boycott/)</p>
<p>Lest we forget his interlude into the Duke non-rape case - </p>
<p>"CNN’s PAULA ZAHN: "Reverend Jackson joins me now.</p>
<p>"Always good to see you. You see the issue of race involved in this case. The – the idea that white men hire black women to strip for them is – quote – ‘That fantasy is as old as slave masters impregnating young slave girls.’</p>
<p>“Are you saying this alleged victim was raped because she was black?” </p>
<p>REVEREND JESSE JACKSON, FOUNDER, RAINBOW/PUSH COALITION: "There’s a race/sex/class intrigue in the situation.</p>
<p>“And the idea of white males fantasizing about black women is – is quite old, quite – and quite ugly, and now quite illegal. And that’s why we really want the truth to be told. We want justice served. And we want the law to serve as a – as a deterrent.”</p>
<p>ZAHN: “But, Reverend Jackson, one of the attorneys representing the captain of the lacrosse team says that, in saying what you’re saying tonight, you’re pandering to race. You’re race-baiting, because there’s no evidence that any of these players specifically asked for a black stripper.”</p>
<p>JACKSON: "Well, that’s what they got and that’s what they paid for.</p>
<p>"You know, it’s – it’s – it’s alarming to me, astonishing, really, after 254 years of legal slavery, 100 years of legal Jim Crow. I grew up in that system. I knew what that system – what it means. They – they knew what they got.</p>
<p>"And we know that they were watching this naked woman, who is a – an exotic dancer, a former person in the Navy, a mother of two, who exposed her body to make money, to take care of her children and go to college. So, she’s not just a stripper, but, really, a person, who they are now about to diminish into a non-person. That’s why she’s afraid. She’s in hiding now.</p>
<p>“And these guys were out of control. Of the 47, 15 in this past year have been arrested for everything from disorderly conduct to public urination.”</p>
<p>ZAHN: “But the alleged victim has a criminal history as well. Do you believe everything this alleged victim has said?”</p>
<p>JACKSON: "No, I do – I – I … "</p>
<p>ZAHN: “Do you think she’s telling the truth?”</p>
<p>JACKSON: "I do not know her.</p>
<p>“But what I – at these parties, you – there are these sexual arousal dimensions there, the drinking dimensions. And, so, I don’t know what all happened.”</p>
<p>You don’t have to accept the demeaning of him. That’s your choice. You do a great disservice to even mention Jesse Jackson and Dr. King in the same sentence like that. Just because Jackson was a sycophantic, hanger-on during Dr. King’s time doesn’t make him a civil rights leader. Whatever respect he may have had back then is long gone by all but the most liberal. All the primaries of '84 and '88 go to show is how stupid millions of Americans really are. I’m sure if Farrakhan were to run today he would get a number of votes. That doesn’t give him credibility.</p>