<p>On the Today Show, they said that the two years being separated had been misinterpreted…it really meant that they had been “living separate lives” for two years. She would go an a book tour, he would be home; she would come home, he would go somewhere.</p>
<p>How confusing it must have been for the kids when they renewed their wedding vows.</p>
<p>This show is dead. TLC–just stick a fork in it!</p>
<p>From the link posted a few back:</p>
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<p>missypie - that counts as being separated in the eyes of the court.</p>
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<p>But what is important is what TLC viewers think! ;)</p>
<p>Yeah, I am floored at the whole marriage vows in Hawaii less than a year ago, and now claiming there has essentially been no marriage for 2 years. Either the statement on the divorce papers is not true, or the reaffirming marriage vows was a sham. Both can’t be true. And TLC has been crafting just exactly what it is they want us to see/believe. This is not reality. This is part fairy tale part product placement/advertising. The reality is gone. And if they are real about it, we don’t want to watch. And for the kids sake, that part of it should not be shown. </p>
<p>Personally, I am over seeing the kids get free stuff and go to free events. This is no longer how a real everyday mom lives, and how a normal mom copes with a large, nearly instant family. I can no longer relate. And I no longer want to be a voyeur.</p>
<p>IMHO I will give a benefit of the doubt for the Hawaii trip, maybe the marriage was in the tanks and at that time they were still trying to revive it and thought maybe we can do a fresh start. I never saw the episode, but I am curious was any family there at all.</p>
<p>I might be wrong, but if you go back 2 yrs ago, isn’t that when Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin (name?) were kicked off the show? Wasn’t that also the same yr, they go back to Jon’s hometown (where his mom lives), but some women named Beverly (grandma age) had a picninc lunch, but Jon’s mom and step-dad weren’t there. This was the episode she blew up at him for not having matching jackets.</p>
<p>I now watch to see how they have prostituted themselves out. The show is no longer about the family, but an infomercial for a company.</p>
<p>Tummy Tuck
Hair Plugs
OCC for the motorcycle
Emeril was for his.
Steve and Bill Nye with the solar panels for planet green
Amazing cakes with Duff
Crooked house
Harlem Globetrotters
Sesame Street
Party City for the b-day party
Disney
Hawaii
Utah
California
Outer Banks</p>
<p>Don’t fool yourself the boys wearing GAP sweatshirts were advertisment. The shopping episode was free clothing. Guessing JOHN DEERE TRACTOR WAS FREE TOO (my sister was on Calling All Cooks…1 episode, she contacted Kitchen AId and Calphalon, walked out with 10K restaurant quality stove, new fridge, dishwasher and trash compactor, also small appliances like blender, rice cooker,etc. Calpahlon gave her every pot and pan imaginable and the utensils) EVEN the dog breeder got free advertising.</p>
<p>This is not reality TV it is the MOVIE THE TRUMAN SHOW</p>
<p>I don’t blame them, because why should they not take the freebies, I don’t blame the companies because 10 million people are watching, even 10% of 1% means 10K new clients, when they see the crocs the girls wear, or their bathing suits. I bet Crooked House has a ton of orders today because they showed 4 styles and how the kids loved them. That was an infomercial.</p>
<p>Bullet and I actually thought about paying to have solar panels placed, I went as far as contacting companies, when it came out that it would be 40K we walked. We never would have thought about it without this show. Now be a parent of a young child and you are going to buy an outdoor dollhouse, all of the sudden you see this and you now call them. Even if they get 10% of those 10K clients, that means they got 1000 sales for 4 homes. Not bad of a return for any company.</p>
<p>MY QUESTION:
Jon is moving to NY and has stated he intends to go back to work, I’d love to know where is he working? Is he going back as an IT guy, or maybe he will do his own paid appearances, or media</p>
<p>I’ve never watched this show but know both my sister & SIL just love it. I’ve never ID’d with it and at this rate don’t think I ever will. I’m not into consumerism and product placement anyway. Really sad for the kids – hope funds have been saved for their education in case the money train runs out. They’re cute, but not sure how much cute will sell with the “trainwreck.” Who knows?</p>
<p>If I remember correctly, the family that was at the renewal ceremony was some of Jon’s relatives that they had never met but lived in Hawaii. Also, I seem to remember comments about how the renewal meant forever and that nothing would come between them or something to that effect. I just became aware of this show late last summer and was taken in with the premise. I didn’t go out of my way to watch it but if it was on when I was channel surfing I usually watched. I did find the dynamic between Jon and Kate uncomfortable especially in their couch interviews. She always seemed to be patronizing, criticizing etc. My take at the time was that he just let it go so as not to bicker on camera. When I saw previews of the Hawaii episodes, I did make sure I watched. I used to live in Hawaii and I love seeing anything Hawaii-related. I believed the ceremony and the sentiments. I am furious with TLC for presenting this sham. I also agree with other posters about these children growing up with the sense of entitlement that has been their life so far.</p>
<p>2 years ago–Isn’t that around the time she screamed at him from the other side of the Toys-R-Us store? He was taking care of and occupying 6 or 7 of the kids while she went off to pick out some toys. All of a sudden, she started screaming (really-screaming) JON…—the entire store must have been mortified. When she caught up with him, she continued to scream, ridicule, and embarrass him in front of everyone.</p>
<p>Add to the freebie list the wedding dress for Hawaii from the very exclusive and pricey NY store that is featured in “Say Yes to the Dress.”</p>
<p>caught an old episode today which focused on Kate’s coupon clipping & rainchecks and obsession with saving money at the grocery store. My how things have changed.</p>
<p>Also saw an article saying that Jon’s girlfriend will be joining the show (the school teacher) - that has to be wrong. (if not “wrong” then definitely “WRONG”).</p>
<p>Said it before, no fan of Kate but Jon is the most immature male on the face of the planet.</p>
<p>“Said it before, no fan of Kate but Jon is the most immature male on the face of the planet.”</p>
<p>Not even close. He’s just a normal young guy trying to escape a very cleverly executed trap. Run Jon Run.</p>
<p>All I can say is, “Poor Kids!” Hope some money is saved for their counseling!</p>
<p>I bet the little kids will fare better psychologically than the older ones.</p>
<p>Jon won’t run too far because he is just as enamored with the money as Kate. Keeps insisting he is not exploiting his kids… but doesn’t want to work a real job either (nor apparently is he qualified to).</p>
<p>I didn’t watch the announcement episode because the previews were way too sad for me (the College World Series was much more exciting!) but I keep thinking what a nightmare it will be as they sit down to divide the assets, especially seeing as how most of the assets were generated by the kids! One would hope that a big chunk would be taken off the top for the future of the children and a smaller remainder divided between the parents…especially since J&K’s top priority is the children right? We all know how important tanning and personal trainers and diamond studs and bachelor pads are to the children. </p>
<p>Part of me is actually relieved that the plan to divorce was at least announced; my 21 year old D kept saying it made her angry to hear people talking about Jon’s “girlfriend” when he was a married man; how can you be married and have a “girlfriend”, like choose one or the other already. Don’t get me wrong, not a fan of Kate’s either with all the book signing traveling time spent away from the kids. I think the kids are all precious and feel really bad for them having all this pain and destruction documented for life.</p>
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<p>I worry that in a few years, Jon will end up broke and unemployed in some cheap studio apartment somewhere…sort of like the child TV stars who can’t bring themselves to finish school and get a real job when their cuteness wears off. I don’t worry about Kate…I think she’s a survivor.</p>
<p>New People article coming out this Friday says Kate is still wearing wedding ring. </p>
<p>It says:</p>
<p>Kate has not stopped wearing her wedding ring.</p>
<p>“She’s not ready to do that yet,” People magazine’s senior editor Kate Coyne told Matt Lauer on the “Today” show Wednesday. “She stopped and thought about it and realized that if her kids saw that visible indication that the marriage was over, that it would just devastate them.”</p>
<p>Wonder what they ARE telling them about the divorce?</p>
<p>[Kate</a> Gosselin: ‘It feels like I failed’ - MSN TV News](<a href=“http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=415998>1=28103]Kate”>http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=415998>1=28103)</p>
<p>I heard that interview…apparently they have told the kids…but yet they would be devistated if she took off the ring?</p>
<p>You know, one good thing that could come out of the divorce is having a judge take a long look at their finances and maybe strongly suggest or order trusts for the kids, etc.</p>