<p>Toblin, the same things you get with kindle can be had with the ipad</p>
<p>If we are going to get an Ipad, we’ll go all the way to give him options. If we are going to forego the data option and camera, we’ll get the kindle. This is a kid (well not technically a “kid”) who chose a totally different car because the feature he wanted wasnt coming out on the car he wanted for about 6 mos and he had to get a car immediately.</p>
<p>** he went with a used car</p>
<p>Then go with the IPad with 3g and let him choose if/when he wants to use a data plan. You can actually activate it for a month…doesn’t have to be a two year commitment. </p>
<p>As an FYI…I took my IPad to Africa and had no trouble accessing wifi everywhere I went.</p>
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<p>If he is THAT picky about the features he wants…I would ask HIM which device he would prefer.</p>
<p>My recommendation is to get him the IPad with all the bells and whistles- 3G,or better yet 4G. He will thank you for giving a much more mulitfunctional tool. The Kindle is a toy compared to the Ipad.</p>
<p>Love, love, love my Nook Color. It’s back lit so reading anywhere isn’t a problem. I bought it for a quick trip to Europe where I needed my e-mail. It worked great on Wifi. I put a 32G chip in it, so I can look at any documents I might need to. Battery life is fine if you don’t have the wifi on. I’ve read more books in the last 8 months than in the last 8 years because it’s always handy and I can easily switch to whatever type of reading materials I prefer. Finally, had to break down and buy one for H last weekend since he’s always got mine when I want it.</p>
<p>Depends on whether he wants all the bells and whistles.</p>
<p>The issue with the ipad3 is we would prefer not to spend that much. If we clearly wanted to, I wouldn’t be asking all this here.</p>
<p>I think it is between Kindle & iPad ,but it really depends on what he wants to do with it.
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Watching videos, the iPad is twice as big as Kindle. Makes a difference.
Reading books? A wash.
Using Apps? Developers make one Android App for every three iOS Apps.
Web surfing is slow on the Kindle but there are browsers that can speed it up
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<p>Ooooohhh…glad I see alternate browsers for Kindle Fire! that’s why I do CC!
Still–you’ll probably end up with all of them and then you too can write reviews. A new iPad, a Kindle Fire, new iphone etc. No one machine does it all. they can’t. Everything fills a niche market. Some niches are bigger than others.
I love iPad but can’t stuff it in my purse and hard to jog with to listen to audio books. It takes great pix but not real subtle at weddings. Kindle is great for books but won’t facetime. Okay for web surfing but iPad beats it out. there’s always something.<br>
Apple is good at pre-testing their apps before they go on market–not all make it.
If you look up reviews for Kindle fire just know many of the complaints with first edition have been addressed and fixed for later models.
Amazon’s book lending for primary member of amazon prime is pretty fine if you read a lot of new books. Just saying.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone. Now DH is saying DS won’t want the data plan. I am soo confused :o</p>
<p>iPad–bigger screen, face time, apple apps, more expensive
Kindle fire–smaller screen (bit more portable), android apps, cheaper</p>
<p>If I did iPad I’d still go for 3G version–you don’t need to activate a data plan but the option is still available to you. Although if you have an iPhone already you may never need the option since most everything you need will be available to you already.
(By the time you decide there will be four more options on the market!:)}</p>
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<p>As many of my previous posts have indicated, I am NOT a great fan of the iPad. Actually, I need to rephrase that. It is a great device when restricted to its intended purpose, which is an entertainment device to waste time pleasantly. My “beef” is with people who pretend it can replace a computer or can be used for business purposes. Hate or like it, the Flash and USB limitations of the iPad preclude it to be a business tool. </p>
<p>As far as using in Europe, based on the recent experience, the BEST attribute of the iPad was its … cellular data. I was able to purchase a local MICROSIM that gave universal access for a very reasonable price. The original was 10 Euros for 500 Meg of data, but was able to upgrade to a different plan that gave 2Gig of Data, unlimited text, and 80 minutes of talk and allowed me to swap the card between the iPhone and iPad. With a bit of tweaking I made it all work without having to rely to very spotty public wifis alternatives. Of course, unless someone has an unlimited corporate expense account, nobody in his right mind would rely on ATT for access to an iPad or iPhone overseas. The difference is that the iPad is never closed, like the asinine iPhone access system is. This means the iPad gadget is made for local access. </p>
<p>So, if I were to purchase another iPad, I would most definitely add the 3G (or whatever G) to the options. </p>
<p>Regarding the Kindle Fire, since your DH has an iPad, I would order the Kindle and make it use it. I am convinced he would return it to you in a flash, pun intended. As always, there are good and bad parts to each device. Kindles are not to be compared with iPads. </p>
<p>My conclusion would give a (very) lukewarm endorsement to the full iPad. If you were to really like the smaller platform, I would encourage you to wait a few weeks and check the new Asus Android tablets. At 149, this might become a “giveaway” that is a no-brainer, even for a frugal wineloving skier. </p>
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<p>PS You do not NEED a data plan; the usage can be a la carte. Unless you know you will NEVER travel out of the US, get the 3G option.</p>
<p>PPS Regarding Europe, there is a HUGE difference between saying that WiFi is easy to find, and having it available when YOU want and at what cost! It might be available at Starbucks or McDonalds, but there are plenty of areas where you are SOL. Example? Almost every airport!</p>
<p>I wouldnt say the iPad replaces the computer, but for people who want to do calculations on site and don’t want to have to carry their laptop or even a net book, the iPad can be pretty handy.
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<p>Re wireless in airports
Domestic airports seem to have much more limited access than international.
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<p>I still haven’t found a reason to “trade in” my four-year-old ASUS Netbook, with battery up to 14 hours. I’ve got a Verizon 4G LTE device that let’s me connect most everywhere in the U.S. Abroad, I’ve always bought a stick. Got full-figured WORD, connectivity, USB port (very important for my uses). If the new Android device comes with USB ports and full word-processing, I’ll take a look. But for now…</p>
<p>Well, you can leave your laptop at home and do remote desktop with an iPad. </p>
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<p>Many people thought Betamax wasa good product back in the day, and we all know what happened to that…Apple has a stranglehold on the tablet market, and for the near term, everything else is second rate</p>
<p>iPad 3G data plans are very expensive (for us anyway) and none are unlimited. </p>
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<p>We have 2 iPads in the house (mine and my husband’s). My son is very happy with his Kindle Fire. We gave it to him for Christmas. He enjoyed the surprise and uses it daily still.</p>
<p>"So, if I were to purchase another iPad, I would most definitely add the 3G (or whatever G) to the options. "</p>
<p>Make sure the whatever G you are considering actually works in the country where you intend to use the iPad. As my friend found out the hard way, her 4G iPad was useless in Russia ( the 3G would have worked with the local cellular companies, but she already spent her money on the new model).</p>
<p>Maybe I missed something…but I don’t recall the OP’s son was planning to take his IPad internationally on a regular basis.</p>
<p>When we contemplated this for DD, we asked HER what her intended use was. She was very clear…it was going to be used for reading books only. Because of her location, we needed something that held a charge for a LONG time, and where we or she could make book purchases (if necessary) or download freebies from them in her country. The Kindle won (the one with no ads, but not the Kindle Fire). She loves it…but it’s like her library…not her computer.</p>