LAC mistake for a conservative kid?

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You win the prize!!! That’s how CC rolls.</p>

<p>geeps20: I don’t think it’s too early to start thinking about college for your child. You’re a well-prepared parent! FWIW, our son became more cemented in a conservative mindset throughout high school. He was in a very liberal HS where he received a tremendous education and he was challenged to really dig deep for answers. Wishing you lots of fun as you hang on for the ride!</p>

<p>thanks CelticClan…I will be prepared, that’s for sure. This thread was certainly an eye opener to how some people think…scary actually.</p>

<p>Apparently it’s okay to chastise people who have a liberal outlook as having “knee-jerk reactions” – implying there is no thought behind their views – and then chastise them further for being “intolerant” on top of it.</p>

<p>Is that tolerant? Accepting? </p>

<p>Huh. Who knew?</p>

<p>Geeps20, you’re entitled to your views, of course, but not believing in anthropogenic global warming is akin to believing that 2+2= 5, or that the first President of the United States was Caspar the Friendly Ghost. You can hardly expect educated people to take you seriously. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but everyone is not entitled to their own facts.</p>

<p>CF, anthropogenic GW has not even been going on long enough for us to tell how much of the current temperature is due to it. Educated people would know this. We can at best use recent temp data to assert a correlation and then make predictions.</p>

<p>Ice Cores: <a href=“http://www.grossmont.edu/chrishill/earth%20history%20articles/greenland%20ice%20cores,frozen%20in%20time.pdf[/url]”>www.grossmont.edu/chrishill/earth%20history%20articles/greenland%20ice%20cores,frozen%20in%20time.pdf</a></p>

<p>Milankovitch Cycles: [Milankovitch</a> cycles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles]Milankovitch”>Milankovitch cycles - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>CO2 levels: [Google</a> Image Result for <a href=“http://bloomingfutures.com/uploads/images/Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr.png[/url]”>http://bloomingfutures.com/uploads/images/Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr.png](<a href=“http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bloomingfutures.com/uploads/images/Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr.png&imgrefurl=http://bloomingfutures.com/climate_change.html&usg=__AeBcy0nUWTgybPcFCE5HZoNPp6w=&h=380&w=512&sz=23&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=qwDrE2XCgYmlWM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dco2%2Blevels%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN]Google”>http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bloomingfutures.com/uploads/images/Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr.png&imgrefurl=http://bloomingfutures.com/climate_change.html&usg=__AeBcy0nUWTgybPcFCE5HZoNPp6w=&h=380&w=512&sz=23&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=qwDrE2XCgYmlWM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dco2%2Blevels%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN)</a></p>

<p><a href=“http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/IceCores1.gif[/url]”>http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/IceCores1.gif&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://sharpgary.org/CO2GlobTemp.gif[/url]”>http://sharpgary.org/CO2GlobTemp.gif&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Just look at the data. Anthropogenic GW is simply a phenomenon that we have never encountered. Look at the enormous spike in carbon levels. No one can even tell for sure what’s going to happen, because we simply have no data for it. We don’t even know how much it’s affecting the climate right now.</p>

<p>owlice-
No, it’s not ok to be intolerant or chastise others for their views. I agree with you. However, after receiving a plethora of hate filled vulgar laden PM’s in response to my conservative views on certain issues, then yes, I concur that more intolerance comes from those who don’t accept their progressive beliefs. I admit, I live in a deep, deep blue area and am more sensitive to how my opinions are perceived. We even had a car window broken and a car keyed during an election cycle. :frowning:
geeps20- My apologies for contributing to the hijacking of your OP!</p>

<p>“conservative” “liberal” “controversial” – At this point I have no idea what Geeps means by these words, or what sort of education Geeps wants for his/her? son, but I wholeheartedly support all parents’ rights to educate their children however they think best. Geeps – Best of luck with college selection.</p>

<p>CelticClan, get back to me when you’re accused of treasonous behavior and have your patriotism questioned because you don’t agree with a particular military action your government has undertaken.</p>

<p>“prominent CONSERVATIVE scientists”</p>

<p>Do you really think that the reason we trust physicists and geologists is because they are likely to vote Democratic?</p>

<p>The reason I suspect that physicists and geologists know what they’re talking about is that the scientific method has produced all kinds of results I see around me. The computer screen you’re looking at right now functions as a result of scientific inquiry. So does the airplane above your house that’s staying up in the air thanks to our understanding of physics. So do your child’s schoolmates, many of whom would have died in infancy were it not for scientifically created and tested vaccines.</p>

<p>Those results tell me that science is a damn good way to figure out how the natural world works. Like all human endeavors, it is subject to error. But when scientists apply the same methods that gave us the airplane to previously unstudied phenomena, I’m confident they’re tackling that problem with the right tools.</p>

<p>Were you accused by a federal agency? CIA? FBI? Arrested? That is a big deal and I’m sorry you had that experience. Vandalizing property is wrong and intolerant behavior IMO. Also, I firmly believe my son should not be called hateful names and made fun of by those disdain military personnel. You see, it goes both ways…sadly.</p>

<p>Um, can anybody read post #287??? Maybe it’s just me???</p>

<p>CelticClan, that post #287 makes more sense then us continuing to try to help the OP (like I was foolishly trying to do, even though I realized there was only a 2% chance they were sincere in their quest). </p>

<p>OP, I change my rec’s to
Patrick Henry
Liberty
ORU
Pensacola Christian
Grove City
Bob Jones</p>

<p>I don’t believe many other schools will make the grade.</p>

<p>Regardless of if GW is true or not I will offer a more conservative (in a religious sense) justification as to why ppl should care about the environment. God gave us this land and blessed us to have a planet bountiful to provide for our needs, and as such we are to be good stewards to the earth in the same way that we are to be good stewards of our fellow human beings. </p>

<p>I wonder how the distinction made between non-religious conservatives and religious conservatives. For myself my entire affliation with conservatism and the republican party is a natural extension of faith, but the other aspects of conservatism especially economically from a government intervention view I really don’t hold.
IMO religion should be disconnected from political discourse and conservatism should not have a religious affliation, and with the election of Barack Obama and his preeminence of Christian faith while also adhering to liberal opinions seems to be taking a step in the right direction.</p>

<p>There seems to be many people on here with polarized views and I just wonder what they think about the marriage of religion and politics, which I think should be divorced. Got to keep the Church pure.</p>

<p>curmuedgeon - glad to see you changed it; I think you were the one who originally (upthread many pages ago) suggested Muhlenberg. Perhaps relative to some other schools, it might be seen as… nah, strike that. After hearing of my daughter’s experiences and perceptions on campus during this last election, I can’t see anyone describing it as conservative. Sure there are some conservative kids on campus, but it’s also a very gay-friendly campus. Would not make the OP’s cut.</p>

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<p>huh, since when was the church ever pure?</p>

<p>^^Pure from politics, oh and the church is the body of believers and therefore is pure.</p>

<p>sadly, curmudgeon i think you are right.</p>

<p>Like I said, since when has the church ever been pure? Never pure from politics, either, although it’s a nice goal to reach for.</p>

<p>TO me- this speech that Kyra Sedgewicks character gives, explains the struggle better than I can.</p>

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<p>Yes, far too many conservatives do believe exactly that. It makes it easier to dismiss that which they do not want to acknowledge. </p>

<p>It’s just sad to watch people work themselves into a lather over issues they clearly do not understand; from the word tolerance to peer review to the concept free speech. It is any wonder that liberal professors have become so feared?</p>

<p>I miss William F. Buckley, Jr. I disagreed with the man far more often than not but I admired his mind. My FIL is a conservative of that generation as well. I look foward to the day that Palin-level standards of knowledge once again yield to high standards.</p>

<p>““conservative” “liberal” “controversial” – At this point I have no idea what Geeps means by these words, or what sort of education Geeps wants for his/her? son,”</p>

<p>Funny how some can twist a statement so many ways that they don’t understand it… My point was clear and obvious</p>