LAC mistake for a conservative kid?

<p>"No, OP, you miss the point of the discussion. You asked for opinions. Now you have them and don’t like what you are reading. "</p>

<p>No sir, you missed the point. This thread has answered my original question…that is a good thing for me. It was nothing to do with liking or disliking what I’m reading.</p>

<p>Johnwesley is right #316
Think for just a moment about how many republicans have “emerged” from elite, liberal schools…Indeed, the OP might have to consider a “home school” college where he can control ALL aspects of the learning environment of his child!</p>

<p>again…you are wrong and missed the point…who said anything about wanting to control everything?</p>

<p>My original post stated MY SON doesn’t like it. He is not vocal, doesn’t push his views on anyone, yet he has seen teachers do it and it bothers him.</p>

<p>Last year in social studies, the teacher lets the kids watch the news for 10 minutes each day, he stated that the kids could watch any station, CNN, MSNBC, ect except FOX news because they were biased. Like the other stations aren’t? MSNBC…are you kidding me? Stuff like that surely has an impact on a kid…he doesn’t like it and he is right.</p>

<p>“I guess we have a different interpretation of the word “educated”. It’s not just seeing other views, it’s also learning specific skills, information.”</p>

<p>Some of my relatives believe the best colleges to be a sort of vo tech experience. They want their kids to acquire specific skills and information that will lead directly to jobs after graduation. For those families, NE LACs would not be an appropriate choice but it would have nothing to do with left biases or liberal professors. imho</p>

<p>I want the “seeing other views” sort of education for my kids so a NE LAC would be an appropriate choice whether I were conservative or liberal. again jmho - and not that I don’t want them to get jobs lol!</p>

<p>geeps, the single best resource for you will be the ISI book Choosing the Right College. It’s not a quick read, but the information and insights will be very valuable as you start sifting through your son’s college options. You’ll see that even at the most politically correct left-wing campuses, there are still oases of sanity, with outstanding professors who teach what used to be called the “core curriculum.”<br>
Good luck!</p>

<p>geeps, relying on “you missed the point” isn’t working. You don’t answer questions, you won’t clarify your position, you just keep repeating “you missed the point,” as though saying that repeatedly makes it so.</p>

<p>I am trying very hard to take you at your word – that you want to find a suitable college for a student who is years from college, who is very likely to change a lot before he starts college, who really doesn’t want to hear opinion expressed by professors – but it’s increasingly difficult (becoming well nigh impossible) to do so when you haven’t answered any of the excellent, clarifying questions asked of you.</p>

<p>Define “fact,” for example. That would help others help you.</p>

<p>If you are looking for a conservative, religious college experience, for example, for your son, just say so outright, instead of trying to hide behind “he doesn’t like it when teachers voice liberal opinions in the classroom.” </p>

<p>What kind of college experience are you looking for for this as-yet-unformed-college student of the future? Lay it out.</p>

<p>Or stop pretending that you are here to find an appropriate college, and admit you are here just to try to bash colleges you wouldn’t be caught dead attending because someone, somewhere on campus, might be a vegetarian or vote Democratic!</p>

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<pre><code> Okay, Geeps, at least now you are being honest with yourself and that’s a start! You are clearly angry that someone deigned to have your child get his news from a source other than “Fixed News” and you resent it. MSNBC is biased. We all know it…So is CNN and the other networks (except C-SPAN). If you want your son to be informed and want him NOT to hear alternative viewpoints then you are really in for a rude awakening!
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<p>owlice…just stop it…you can obviously read…my point is clear…</p>

<p>I’m not looking for any specific type of college…AGAIN, I was inquiring if NE LACs were made up of predominantly biased prof who liked to push their views…that’s it…period…there is no hidden agenda.</p>

<p>“Okay, Geeps, at least now you are being honest with yourself and that’s a start! You are clearly angry that someone deigned to have your child get his news from a source other than “Fixed News””</p>

<p>some of you are hopeless…</p>

<p>School is where one learns to put up with things other people/institutions/governments impose upon one.</p>

<p>geeps20 wrote @319 >I have no beef…was just looking for info…Why do libs feel the need to twist every little thing around?<</p>

<p>who’s twisting what!!!? it’s clear you have a beef against the way MOST modern colleges and universities approach teaching and learning. Is that an exaggeration?</p>

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The answer is NO.</again,></p>

<p>“who’s twisting what!!!? it’s clear you have a beef against the way MOST modern colleges and universities approach teaching and learning. Is that an exaggeration?”</p>

<p>Yes</p>

<p>“School is where one learns to put up with things other people/institutions/governments impose upon one.”</p>

<p>true, but wouldn’t it be better if no one imposed? Impose is a strong word…no one imposed anything on me in college…</p>

<p>geeps, methinks you are going to believe whatever you want to believe about NE LACs. You have taking the “liberal” in LAC to mean something entirely different than what it actually means. </p>

<p>As influential as professors can be, the social environment – the students – at a school will likely influence your son even more. My kid went off to study logic for three weeks and came home a vegetarian; I don’t think the educators played any role in that!</p>

<p>“methinks you are going to believe whatever you want to believe about NE LACs.”</p>

<p>not true…I know nothing about them, that’s why I started the thread.</p>

<p>geeps20 - the top NE LACs are no different than the top midwestern LACs, the Ivy League, large research universities like Chicago, Stanford, Emory or Rice in terms of acceptable teaching practices.</p>

<p>“geeps20 - the top NE LACs are no different than the top midwestern LACs, the Ivy League, large research universities like Chicago, Stanford, Emory or Rice.”</p>

<p>I would like to know how you came to this conclusion…</p>

<p>geeps–there are no guarantees. My D. was conservative by the standards of our community, and went to a school with a “conservative” reputation. Lurking beneath the facade of conservativism was a radical, life changing message that fundamentally challenged her way of thinking. Most of us would call Roman Catholicism “conservative” but it’s more like the quote Opie posted…some things (sexuality) they are conservative about, but some things like respect for life, when approached in the way the church does, are beyond conventional liberal dogma.</p>

<p>I know she’s getting a fantastic education, because you can’t pin a conventional “liberal” or “conservative” label on her anymore. And boy can she use data and rational argument to back up her positions. </p>

<p>So yeah–definitely check out Holy Cross. You might also look at Boston College and at Notre Dame if your son is open to going as far west as Indiana.</p>

<p>(Edit) the 'radical life changing message" was that fundamental respect for life, since all life is created by God, that is the foundation of Catholic theology.</p>

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<p>geeps20 -I’d answer that except that I know it would just lead us down another rabbit hole of parsing each other’s qualifications. this is an internet discussion group. you’re free to take it or leave it.</p>