<p>“capable, yes. willing to expend the energy, doubtful”</p>
<p>that goes both ways</p>
<p>"Now, do I hold this believe for every bit of scientific data that I read, study, or discuss? Of course not. But of the years, I have learned that the best thing to do; if it’s a topic/study that I am interested in; is to try and study the data/facts of the research, and come to my own conclusions to the whys and hows. "</p>
<p>Your ability (and my ability too) to “try and study the data/facts of the research and come to my own conclusions as to the whys and hows” is limited, however, unless you are a researcher / scientist with the proper education, training and years of experience in the field. It really doesn’t matter what <em>I</em> think about global warming, or what you think. It matters what the experts who study it for a living think. How dumb, to think that I would be as capable of “studying the matter” as they are.</p>
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<p>Well, I didn’t “send” my kid to any school: he picked it.</p>
<p>But I can tell you why <em>I</em> wouldn’t encourage him to go to most of the “conservative” schools cited here, such as Liberty, Bob Jones, or even Wheaton or Grove City: in the first place, many of them require a statement of faith, which is something that I find abhorrent and that he could not do without lying, and in the second place, they simply aren’t the best schools.</p>
<p>“Why doesn’t the liberal need to see the other side, too?”</p>
<p>Because they are intellectually superior and are the true “educated” ones …isn’t that obvious from this thread?</p>
<p>geeps, can you provide an example of a college that you think would be too liberal, and one that you think would be too conservative? Doesn’t have to be Northeast or LAC. Just trying to get an understanding of your bookends, so to speak.</p>
<p>you tell me…that was basically my question…In too liberal…I would take the “too” to mean profs that can’t help but push the liberal agenda.</p>
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<p>Many of us “liberal” parents gave specific examples of there NOT being liberal bias in the classroom at various LACs, all of which you apparently ignored.</p>
<p>Some of us also–in an attempt to get you to define what you meant by “pushing liberal views” in the classroom–asked you very specific questions about certain topics, all of which I 'believe you also ignored. Certainly I don’t recall you having addressed my questions.</p>
<p>So how do you conclude that “conservative” parents gave you more specific info? At this point, I conclude that if it reinforced your prejudices you acknowledged its existence and if it did not you ignored it.</p>
<p>again, please define liberal agenda. it will only take a paragraph, or so. otherwise the simplest answer you will get to the question ‘are NE LAC’s made up of predominately biased professors who like to push their views’ is NO they are not. They want to push your (students) views.</p>
<p>"Many of us “liberal” parents gave specific examples of there NOT being liberal bias in the classroom "</p>
<p>your kids probably wouldn’t find it biased if they believed it.</p>
<p>I received a number of private messages stating that there was indeed a biased agenda being pushed at many of the NE LACs…this from parents who have kids there… I feel sorry that some don’t feel comfortable posting this in public…maybe they have learned that saying anything derogatory against liberals here is not advantageous.</p>
<p>“Well, I didn’t “send” my kid to any school: he picked it.”</p>
<p>good for him…is he paying?</p>
<p>There is a liberal bias in most universities. That is well known. THere is a main stream media liberal bias in general too. These are things that are very well known. What is the problem with recognizing this? It’s just the way it is.</p>
<p>i am assuming you don’t want any ‘agenda’ pushed on your son, is this correct?</p>
<p>“These are things that are very well known. What is the problem with recognizing this? It’s just the way it is.”</p>
<p>agreed</p>
<p>Most colleges, unless affiliated with a particular group (often religious) do not have an agenda, conservative or liberal. It does not mean that some of the profs do not have opinions of their own, which they may or may not “push.” In many cases, they are forthright about their opinions, not in order to impose them on their students, but to acknowledge that they do have these opinions. For example, an econ prof may say “I am a great believer in the free market.” Is it any different than another econ prof saying “I think the government should play a dominant role in the economy”? As long as they do not seek to hide their opinions behind a veneer of objectivity and are willing to entertain different opinions, it really does not matter whether they are liberal or conservative.
Most schools have a range of opinions among their faculty. At Harvard, Harvey Mansfield is famous for his conservative views and he is also extremely popular among students of all political stripes.
Some departments are known for being more liberal or conservative. For example, Chicago’s econ department is well known for having turned out economists that belong to “the Chicago school.” Others do not have such a well defined identity.
Ward Churchill, who made waves for his outrageous views on 9/11, used to teach at U Colorado at Boulder, which is not considered a bastion of NE liberalism. I’m sure that he stood out at Boulder!
I know some profs at Holy Cross and BC, both Jesuit institutions. They don’t strike me as more conservative than profs I’ve met elsewhere.</p>
<p>Again, however, I’d suggest that the student body is more important than the faculty in creating a certain atmosphere in which some students will feel more or less comfortable. S’s friend, who is fairly conservative, decided she did not like Hampshire and is very happy at Amherst.</p>
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Geeps: Are you arguing you are capable of explaining to us what you mean by “liberal agenda” but don’t wish to expend the effort?</p>
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<p>Is this seriously your response to what I said? Damned if you do and damned if you don’t?</p>
<p>Okay, at this point it is absolutely clear that you are incapable of taking in information that does not simply reinforce a pre-existing notion.</p>
<p>well put, marite.</p>
<p>alf…I don’t think it needs explaining…it is quite obvious…you are looking way too deep into this.</p>
<p>"Okay, at this point it is absolutely clear that you are incapable of taking in information that does not simply reinforce a pre-existing notion.'</p>
<p>just throwing back what you are throwing at me…it works both ways…</p>
<p>Liberal bias in the media is only “well known” to conservatives. Studies of media bias do not show a consensus on this matter.</p>