<p>Consolation, it’s obvious that Hillary would still like to get the nomination, and that her supporters would like for her to get it, but barring the revelation of an Obama love child, it essentially can’t happen now. That’s what makes people speculate about what her true motivations might be. I agree with you that it’s probably not spite, but it also can’t be a realistic expectation that she can still win.</p>
<p>I mentioned it on the other related thread. Hillary has loaned the campaign at least $11.5 Million of her own money. She may simply make an attempt to appeal to her loyal supporters for sympathy contributions in an attempt to repay this debt. That could be her rationale for “staying in the race”, even though she and her advisers know that she has absolutely no chance at this point in securing the nomination…</p>
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<p>Out of spite? Isn’t that what Clinton is all about? Will she ever get over that a virtually unknown has shattered the promise of an easy campaign for the “entitled” and that her “own” people are soundly rejecting her message and personality? </p>
<p>This is what happens when you build your entire career on polarizing the electorate. Divide to conquer only works for one who is worthy of the victory.</p>
<p>If nominated, Obama cannot win the general election. Clinton can win it. She knows that and so do the superdelegates. Unless Hillary Clinton actually runs out of money (from whatever source), I don’t see her quitting any time soon.</p>
<p>Huckabee is also personable and amusing. Clinton, not so much.
I don’t see the net gain for Obama of bringing Clinton onto the ticket, I really don’t. She brings no new states to speak of, doesn’t substantially differ on the issues, and has many negatives – not the least of which is her husband. Said it before and will say it again, if I were Michelle Obama, I wouldn’t want my husband standing between Hillary and the presidency. I hope he makes a different choice. On a purely personal level, I actually like Obama a lot and am a sucker for cute kids.</p>
<p>I am interested to hear how you think Clinton can win? She has yet to be vetted by the republicans who would not be afraid to expose her skeletons. In addition, she couldn’t even win big in a state (Indiana) that had the demographics in her favor.</p>
<p>In addition, she also had the Rush Limbaugh “Operation Chaos” advantage going for her in Indiana!</p>
<p>Why is it assumed that Obama cannot win the general election but Clinton could? What are the demographics behind this assumption? Thanks.</p>
<p>Obama is neither dumb nor naive enough to offer the VP role to someone who wil consider it a repeat of a co-presidency. </p>
<p>Also, while one might consider the “advantages” of an Obama-Clinton from the democrats’ perspective, voters at large might focus on the negatives of a unique race/gender ticket. Depending on one’s point of view, this could be a miraculous ticket as well as a … disastrous one. You have to factor the fact that Clinton is almost universally despised by the “other” side and will bring many votes to McCain if she were to adorn the Obama ticket.</p>
<p>I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again…</p>
<p>The only person in the world who can unite the Republican party behind John McCain is Hillary Clinton.</p>
<p>I agree, it’s not happening, but the press will talk about it anyway.</p>
<p>Here is what I would like Clinton to do:</p>
<p>I would like her to continue in the race without attacking Obama, so that people can continue to be energized in the remaining States.</p>
<p>At the end of the process, I would like her to concede the primary and whole-heartedly embrace the Obama platform of “a new kind of politics”. I would like her to explicitly state that she tried the “old kind of politics” during the primary and it didn’t work, and that she was finally adopting the “new kind of politics”.</p>
<p>I would like Obama to shower praise on Hillary and acknowledge that her presence in the race taught him a thing or two. At this point I would like Obama to offer her the Vice Presidency spot, and I would like to see her accept it.</p>
<p>That ticket would be unbeatable in the fall.</p>
<p>“Why is it assumed that Obama cannot win the general election but Clinton could?”</p>
<p>Republicans keep saying this because they believe the opposite is true.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that most of the media had Hillary crowned as the presumptive nominee about 2 years ago. She has been the inevitable media darling ever since.</p>
<p>There is a lot of egg on the faces of some of these sources!</p>
<p>“If nominated, Obama cannot win the general election. Clinton can win it. She knows that and so do the superdelegates. Unless Hillary Clinton actually runs out of money (from whatever source), I don’t see her quitting any time soon.”</p>
<p>Razorsharp, how do you figure? For the last couple of month, most polls have suggested that Hillary would lose against McCain whereas Obama would beat McCain. There was a period of 10 days or so recently when HRC seemed to have the edge, but things seem to be moving back in favor of Obama.</p>
<p>I have a question: have you all heard the comments in the last couple of days (may be longer but that’s when I became aware) by Clinton loyalists about an “October surprise” for Obama? Do you think they know something?</p>
<p>“The only person in the world who can unite the Republican party behind John McCain is Hillary Clinton.”</p>
<p>Not if he keeps pandering to la Raza.</p>
<p>They may be accurately predicting that the slime machine will make something up as the general election approaches.</p>
<p>If they did, they would expose him before the republican do when it is too late. This sounds like a cheap scare tactic.</p>
<p>Maybe the “October surprise” is that Obama dressed up as Satan for a Halloween party when he was six… :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I don’t doubt that there will be a “Swift boat”-style attack late in the general. But that’s true no matter who the Democrats nominate, and Obama has shown over the last couple of months that he can keep his cool during a tornado of negative coverage.</p>