<p>razorsharp, the “c” word to Asians is like the “n” word to Blacks. It’s a racial slur disguised on the play on words. It was “DELIBERATELY” used because Lin is Asian. After you realize how offensive it is to Asians and you still find nothing wrong with it, then it tells me what kind of person you are.
You don’t have to tell me how oversensitive I am. I’m not.</p>
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<p>1) Are you Black?
2) Are you Asian? If the latter, are you Japanese, Chinese, Indian, Malay, Vietnamese, Korean, etc.?</p>
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<p>chink has a non-pejorative form. I don’t know if the n word does or not. That’s a difference.</p>
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<p>I take it that you read minds. I like to look at the history and context of someone using a term or phrase to determine whether it is intentionally offensive or not. If there isn’t a clear indication that it was intentional, then I tend to give the benefit of the doubt.</p>
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<p>Razorsharp replied with facts to the phrase.</p>
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<p>You’re oversensitive.</p>
<p>Obviously ESPN disagrees with you.</p>
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<p>And you read the writer’s mind too?
Just how many other times this term were used? And how coincidentally it is used now!!
It is not surprising how people’s innate prejudice presents itself.</p>
<p>C’mon guys. Can’t we talk about Jeremy Lin on his own thread instead of reducing the conversation to splitting semantic hairs over what some non-CC member may have meant and whether that may have been insulting to other non-CC members?</p>
<p>My take:
- The guy who used the offensive term thought he was making a witty play on words.
- He probably also knew that it would be at least mildly offensive but figured he could get away with it. Either that or he figured the subsequent outcry would be minor and worth it in order to show off his clever wit.
- The public outcry and the reaction of his bosses turned to be bigger than he thought, and now he is forced to backtrack.
- The end.</p>
<p>Now, can we get past this and get back to basketball?</p>
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<p>Organizations in CYA mode often do stupid things.</p>
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<p>Absent evidence to the contrary, I give the person the benefit of the doubt.</p>
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<p>It’s used all over the place on the web to refer to a very wide variety of public people.</p>
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<p>It’s not prejudice; it’s a figure of speech.</p>
<p>People used to call me that when I was in grade school. Sometimes in middle- and high-school. It was pretty annoying and offensive back then. But that ended with secondary school. I could ask the gazillion Chinese people that I work with or I could ask my kids but I’d guess that wouldn’t have a problem with it. Lin was interviewed on it and I don’t think that he gave it much thought. I’ll have to review the video to see exactly what he said.</p>
<p>I heard Lin himself said: When he played basketball at college level, the environment (e.g. racial slurs) is more hostile, as compared to what it is now. He said NBC players are relatively much nicer to him. You would think college students and alumni would behave much better because they are highly educated but apparently it is not so according to his experience.</p>
<p>A few specific examples: Is there any difference between Japanese and Chinese? A coach of the other team said (or yelled) to his team’s coach: Can you get that oriental stop doing that? (I learned about this in an interview well before Linsanity but after he had got into NBA. It appears to be related to his religious and volunteering related activities.)</p>
<p>I also wonder how well he could speak in his first language (likely Mandarin, not Taiwanese dialect, because one of his parents might not speak Taiwanese dialect.) My guess is that he could understand it when others speak it, but he could not speak it well. I also suspect that his parents would not like to be interviewed. The other days, Lin made a plea to media that please leave his relatives in Taiwan alone as the media there interferes greatly with their daily life. (Understandable, as Linsanaty is likely even more insane there.)</p>
<p>The comment gave me a bit of a jolt, and that is all. I guess if Lin felt it was unintentional, why should we second-guess him? Jason Whitlocks comment, OTOH, is extremely offensive, but he got away with it. Is this another case of merit in motion?</p>
<p>As far as how Lin is playing, I simply do not believe it. Love to be proven wrong though. Time will tell.</p>
<p>BTW, looking at the Box Score, I know AST stands for assists, ST stands for steals, and TO stands for turnovers. What does BA stand for?</p>
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<p>The “c” can be a racial slur when used to refer to one’s race, but the “n” word is in a class of its own. I think there is something about several hundred years of slavery that makes the “n” word possibly the most offensive word on the planet.</p>
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<p>It was the “c” word mixed with the words “in the armor” and it wasn’t too well disguised. </p>
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<p>If you cannot tell the difference between a phrase and how that phrase can be used (which was my point), it tells me what kind of person you are. </p>
<p>I thought the use of the phrase was inappropriate because of its context. But was it used to be racially offensive or was it used to create controversy so that everyone would talk about ESPN like all of us are doing now?</p>
<p>soccerguy’s use was not inappropriate because he was not intending to describe Lin.</p>
<p>The phrase “chink in the armor” is not a racial slur in itself. </p>
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<p>I never heard of Jason Whitlock before. Wouldn’t it make sense for his career to write something stupid and then publicly apologize for it in order to gain attention? </p>
<p>[Jason</a> Whitlock apologizes for offensive Jeremy Lin tweet - NBA - Sporting News](<a href=“http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-02-12/jason-whitlock-apologizes-for-offensive-jeremy-lin-tweet]Jason”>http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-02-12/jason-whitlock-apologizes-for-offensive-jeremy-lin-tweet)</p>
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<p>"“I guess if Lin felt it was unintentional, why should we second-guess him?”"</p>
<p>Hi, CG. On the other hand, I wouldn’t take it at face value either. PR speaking, Lin gave the PC response. Only Lin knew what he really thought…</p>
<p>"“As far as how Lin is playing, I simply do not believe it. Love to be proven wrong though. Time will tell.”"</p>
<p>Not to take anything away from Lin, I enjoy watching him play. He actually scored more than any player in the first five starts since 1976. But I have also been suspecting that an Asian and particular, ethnic Chinese player would be brought to stardom soon after Yao retired. And here comes Lin popping up at exactly the right moment. Is this just a coincidence or a managed debut by the NBA? I don’t know. Let’s hope that Lin can continue to capitalize on the phenomenon for his own career.</p>
<p>"“The comment gave me a bit of a jolt, and that is all… Jason Whitlocks comment, OTOH, is extremely offensive, but he got away with it.”"</p>
<p>It is a measure of their eagerness to engage the Asian markets. ESPN is becoming more attracted since the Beijing Olympics and hence, the increased sensitivity, while Fox is only luke-warm. I don’t believe in such corporations suddenly revealing a conscience.</p>
<p>"“The “c” can be a racial slur when used to refer to one’s race, but the “n” word is in a class of its own. I think there is something about several hundred years of slavery that makes the “n” word possibly the most offensive word on the planet.”"</p>
<p>The “c” word also originated from about 3/ 4 of a century of anti-Chinese practices in the US, since the late 1800’s toward the WW2, including the Chinese Exclusion Act, as a result of labor competition after the California Gold Rush. It doesn’t have to be compared to the “n” word, to make the “c” word an offensive term. Personally, I find the it more derogatory to the person delivering the insult than the target.</p>
<p>"“Jason Whitlock apologizes for offensive Jeremy Lin tweet - NBA - Sporting News”"</p>
<p>It doesn’t read like a sincere apology.</p>
<p>My transcript of Lin’s comments at the post-game press conference as promised:</p>
<p>I uh mean ESPN has apologized and um you know there’s no what uh I don’t think it was uh you know on purpose or whatever but you know at the same time they’ve apologized and so from my end, I, I don’t care anymore … you know I’ve had to learn to forgive and I don’t even think that was intentional, or hopefully not</p>
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<p>I like Lin. My 14 year old son likes Lin. I am sorry the race issues are overshadowing what a great underdog/perserverance story it is. FWIW, the young man is an American citizen by birth, just like the vast, vast majority of us.</p>
<p>During an interview a couple of years ago, Lin said: If he felt sad when he just had a bad game and felt happy when he had a good game, he did not do the basketball game right and had gone to this field for a wrong reason. He should not be “called” to play basket ball in a way like this. It becomes sort of philosophical and even religious, but this appears to be what his attitude toward playing basketball is or what he prefers to be.</p>
<p>Anyone remember the controversy years ago about Pekin High School in Illinois? Guess what the name of the school mascot was? A name change was more than overdue.</p>
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<p>all I did was quote someone else… and I can’t edit it now anyway, since CC only gives you like 15 minutes. I apologize if posting a link to ESPN using the word another time was offensive to anyone.</p>
<p>It looks like the party is over for this year. So sad.</p>
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<p>I watched him playing with the knee strap (or brace - don’t exactly remember which) but I’ve worn these things on and off for about 17 years and I know when to push it and when to rest the knee. If I don’t rest it, it can get exponentially worse. It looks like Lin pushed it (hard not to at that age and his position).</p>
<p>We’ll seeing how he’s doing - my kid will be visiting him this week.</p>