<p>“In fact, correct me if I’m wrong, no Princeton team has won an ivy league championship this year.”</p>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHA, that statement COULDN’T be more wrong.</p>
<p>(“In fact, correct me if I’m wrong, no Princeton team has won an ivy league championship this year.”</p>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHA, that statement COULDN’T be more wrong.)</p>
<p>Yeah it can be.</p>
<p>“In fact, correct me if I’m wrong, no Princeton team has won an ivy league championship this year and UPenn is a state-school.”</p>
<p>Here’s a slogan I made up:</p>
<p>Dartmouth–wanna see beer freeze!?</p>
<p>Ordinarily I don’t post in threads of this sort, based more on personal opinions and tired cliches … but on the matter of which is the top Ivy school in athletics, I think a pretty good case can be made that - this year at least - it is very clearly HARVARD:</p>
<p>Not only does Harvard have more Division I varsity teams, and more Division I varsity athletes - both men and women - than any other school in the United States, but this year they claimed the following Ivy championships -</p>
<p>Football (undefeated)
Baseball
Mens Swimming & Diving (undefeated)
Women’s Swimming and Diving (undefeated)
Women’s Tennis (undefeated)
Mens Squash (undefeated)
Mens Fencing
Women’s Fencing (undefeated)
Women’s Ice Hockey
Field Hockey (tied w/Penn at 6-1)
Womens Basketball (tied w/Dartmouth at 12-2)
Rowing: National champions last two years, candidate to repeat</p>
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<p>plus -
2nd in Mens Ice Hockey (1/2 game behind Cornell)
2nd in Women’s Squash
3rd in Softball (9-5 record)
3rd in Mens basketball (tied)</p>
<p>rowing - their womans heavy and light are supposed to lose this year to princeton =P we will see</p>
<p>too bad princeton has won more ivy championships and ranks higher in all sports rankings =P byerly why dont u just admit that harvard isnt perfect lol. my uncle doesnt even suggest harvard to most kids cuz its not a perfect fit for many people.</p>
<p>must we list everything princeton wins almost every year? just because they have the most d1 teams doesnt mean they are all good lol</p>
<p>I very clearly stated that not only does Harvard have the broadest sports program in the Ivy League (and, indeed, the nation) but that THIS YEAR, AT LEAST, it has claimed more Ivy Championships than any other two schools combined. </p>
<p>Not only do the 2004-2005 results speak for themselves (see list of Ivy championships above) but I also commend to you this USNEWS feature article:</p>
<p>“Athletics For All: Harvard Tops the Scoreboard With A Sporting Smorgasbord to Foster Sound Bodies and Minds”</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/sports/articles/18number.htm[/url]”>http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/sports/articles/18number.htm</a></p>
<p>See also the Honor Roll of the top 20 sports programs nationally:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/sports/rankings/honor.htm[/url]”>http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/sports/rankings/honor.htm</a></p>
<p>Princeton has won more Ivy League Titles and Championships than any other school.</p>
<p>Princeton Ivy Championships
Baseball - 4 of the past 5 years were all Princeton
**Basketball **- 3 of the past 5 years were all Princeton
**XC **- Men’s princeton was last years champion
Fencing - Princeton and Columbia have switched off for the past decade both men and women, harvard not once
**Field Hockey **- Princeton has won every year since 1994
Golf- Princeton dominates women’s golf, Yale has switched off with princeton for men’s golf
Lacrosse - Princeton is the only school listed under the championships for both women and men
Rowing - Princeton won lightweight, Harvard wins heavyweight
Soccer - Princeton and Penn switch off
**Softball **- Princeton has won more titles in softball than the rest of the schools combined
Swim & Dive - both mens and women Princeton dominates. Women have won nearly every title. Men have won namely LAST year, 2 years before that, and had a streak of titles in the late 90s
Track & Field (Indoors)- Princeton men have won every year but upset by Cornell last year, women last won a row of titles in the late 90s. since have lost to cornell
**Volleyball **- princeton has more titles in volleyball than any other school but the last 3 years were upset by Penn</p>
<p>**Football **- Penn won in 2003
**Ice Hockey **- men’s - cornell for the past few years, women’s - dartmouth
**Squash **- the only “sport” harvard dominates in, yet princeton stol two championships in 2001 and 2002. but who plays squash?
**Tennis **- Harvard wins
**Track & Field (outdoors) **- cornell pwns
**Wrestling **- dominated by cornell and penn</p>
<p>source from the official website: <a href=“http://www.ivyleaguesports.com%5B/url%5D”>www.ivyleaguesports.com</a></p>
<p>Very mushy response. Can you give us ACTUAL titles won for the 2004-2005 school year? Hmmm?</p>
<p>here’s a thread from another board on the topic, with still more statistics showing princeton’s athletic dominance over the past two decades, notwithstanding great years for cornell’s and harvard’s athletic departments in 2004-05: </p>
<p><a href=“http://www.voy.com/152805/17768.html[/url]”>http://www.voy.com/152805/17768.html</a></p>
<p>i’m not sure if other schools do this, but every year the brown band makes buttons with insults directed at the other teams
i think they encapsulate the stereotypes pretty well</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.brown.edu/Students/Brown_Band/buttons.shtml[/url]”>http://www.brown.edu/Students/Brown_Band/buttons.shtml</a></p>
<p>The 2004-5 numbers to which you link are both innacuarate (it pains me to say) and incomplete, in that they fail to include Harvard’s title in another big sport - baseball - or to acknowledge Harvard’s two consecutive NATIONAL titles in rowing.</p>
<p>Other than that, you are understandably living in the past, thinking back to the “good old days” when Freddie could be counted on to pass up a few 1500-scorers in favor of another 2 or 3 lax All-Americans from Baltimore!</p>
<p>Never fear, however: Rapelye may not care about lacrosse, but she WILL walk the extra mile for more ballet dancers and a capella singers!!</p>
<p>That 10% enrollment increase can’t come soon enough, eh?</p>
<p>As anyone in the ivy league knows the two important sports in the ivy league are hockey and lacrosse. These are the only two sports which draw large crowds and where the winning teams are ranked nationaly and go on to compete in the ncaa tournaments, (ivy football doesn’t have post season play and ivy basketball has not been competative for 20 years). Cornell has dominated ivy hockey for the last 4 years and has the best ivy record in hockey over the last 40 years. Cornell has had an ivy championship in Lacrosse the last 2 years and was undefeated in Ivy play this year stomping Princeton 16 to 3. Most people also agree that Cornell is moving toward dominance of these two flagship sports for some time to come.</p>
<p>Go Red!</p>
<p>Cornell also has a championship cliff jumping team. They compete annually against MIT.</p>
<p>“The win [in baseball] for the Crimson gives Harvard Athletics its 12th Ivy championship this season, tying the school record set on two occasions, once in 1982-83 and again in 1987-88. With three rowing titles yet to be decided, Harvard still has a chance to set the all-time Ivy League mark. Princeton captured 14 titles in 2000-01.”</p>
<p><a href=“http://gocrimson.collegesports.com/[/url]”>http://gocrimson.collegesports.com/</a></p>
<p>i wouldn’t count out princeton lacrosse, or count in cornell lacrosse, just yet. princeton’s team is extremely young and boasts the last two ivy league rookies of the year, including defenseman dan cocoziello (just named), who was named the top incoming freshmen in D-I before he ever stepped onto the field. they also still have bill tierney, with his six national championships and ridiculous winning percentage in close ncaa games. granted, cornell had six players named first-team all-ivy this year, but four are graduating, including ivy player of the year sean greenhalgh.</p>
<p>That Tierney is a dinosaur whose day will shortly pass, and that at some point the administration will not allow him to use “boosters” or to have 25% more recruits than other Ivies?</p>
<p>The Princeton sporting program has always danced to a different drummer.</p>
<pre><code> In both 1949 and 1950 Harvard won only a single football game; in 1951 Yale won just two. Princeton, however, had used its alumni to initiate an intensive national gridiron recruiting campaign in the late 1930s, and by the end of 1950 the Tigers ranked seventh in the country.
</code></pre>
<p>A columnist for the Boston American taunted Harvard in 1950 for hewing to “blue-nose puritanism” and failing to go after big-time football players. “Harvard has steadily lost its customer trade to mail order institutions,” he declared, “who fan the schoolboy bushes for big hairy barbarians and sell them back to the public at top prices.” </p>
<p>The columnist counseled [President James B.] Conant to skim off the top of Harvard’s athletic endowment and tell Bingham to buy the “best schoolboy bulls” by ordering the alumni clubs to beat the bushes for football talent.</p>
<p>In 1951 Conant passed along to [Yale president A. Whitney] Griswold a call to arms by alumni who wanted to follow the example of Princeton. The letter had gone out to Harvard alumni asking, “Are we mice or men?” The alumni had a duty, the writer argued, to recruit “the right type of boys for Harvard” and further declared that “there are too many over-stimulated introverts and pinkish weaklings and too few good football players and all around he-men.”</p>
<p>screew it man… i’m unsubscribing… :p</p>
<p><em>yawn</em></p>
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I thought that was kind of ironic.</p>
<p>Before we get all caught up in the notion of Princeton’s supposed fall in athletics, keep in mind 2004-2005 was a down year but we still had TWO teams make it to the NCAA Final Four (Men’s Water Polo, Women’s Soccer). Princeton is the only school in the ivy league to have a team make it to the Final Four in a 64 team field (Women’s Soccer this year) and is also the ONLY ivy league school to have won a national title in a major sport (Basketball, NIT). Lacrosse (Men’s and Women’s) and Field Hockey all had won the league for 10 straight years before 2004-2005 and Women’s Swimming had won for 6 straight years. To say this is Rapeleye’s fault is a bit foolish as the current Ivy League Rookies of the Year for Men’s and Women’s Lacrosse are BOTH Princeton freshman accepted by Rapeleye. </p>
<p>Considering Princeton had a really terribly year, this is how we did:
Fall Sports
Field Hockey - 3rd
Football -4th
Men’s Soccer - 2nd
Women’s Soccer - 1st (NCAA Final Four)</p>
<p>Winter
Men’s Basketball- 6th (Let’s forget that this happened)
Ice Hockey - 4th
Squash - 3rd (But we also have the best player in collegiate squash)
Indoor Track - Men’s- 1st
Wrestling- 6th (Wrestling has been our weakness as the program had been discontinued for a while)</p>
<p>Spring
Baseball- 2nd in the Gehrig Division (First time we haven’t won it)
Golf- Womens - 1st
Golf- Mens - 1st
Men’s Lacrosse - 2nd (To think we were ranked in the top 3, preseason)
Women’s Lacrosse - 2nd (Number 4, nationally)
Softball - 1st
Tennis - 4th
Crew - Womens is currently ranked Number 1 and Men’s Heavy’s were number one before falling to Harvard</p>
<p>hey now, let’s back off on the ballet dancers, trust me, Harvard takes a few as well</p>