Long Island SAT Cheating Ring - Great Neck

<p>Is it because his parents belonged to a union?</p>

<p>If they “had large discrepancies between their academic performance records and their SAT scores,” as the article states, one wonders what schools they hoped to achieve admission to that made the risk seem worthwhile. It sounds as if their gpa’s were sub-par, doesn’t it?</p>

<p>For those asking how they took it at another school…I went to a private school on Long Island, and I had dozens of options of where to take the SAT when I signed up on the College Board website…I cannot say 100% that it is the same for public school kids, but I feel like they have those same options too. I mean, you sign up on CollegeBoard, not through your school. So that would be a very easy way to take it in lots of different schools beside your own.</p>

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<p>Read my post again without adding points I did not make. Look at the context of the pressures placed on some to piece together fantastic and hyper-competitive resumes.</p>

<p>And, fwiw, here’s a bit of additional context to this discussion:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2008/11/lie_cheat_and_steal_in_high_pr.html[/url]”>Lie, cheat, steal in high pressure environment: Survey shows high school students' ethics lapses - cleveland.com;

<p>Testing and College admissions aside. This is a sad reflection on our society.</p>

<p>What has happened to our morals? is the pressure to succeed that intense?</p>

<p>Yes, I had my son take the SAT at a more modern school that was fully air conditioned, as opposed to his own high school. You can choose where to take the test. However, if a student signs up for a test far from their own school, that might be one indicator to look for suspicious activity - because they are going somewhere where no one will know them or the student taking the test for them.</p>

<p>Yes, as charlieschm said, you can sign up to take it at any test location. It was not offered at my kids’ HS, so they had to choose another place. They just chose other local high schools.</p>

<p>I really hope the colleges & HS come down hard on both the test taker and his clients. Something that ends as a fine of some sort, or something that can be bought off, would be exactly the wrong message to send to them.</p>

<p>As someone who attended a NYC Specialized high school, they didn’t host the SATs at my school so I had to take it offsite. With classmates from all 5 boroughs, the vast majority took the SATs in their home neighborhoods or if they ran out of space/opted to do so, they took it at a site nearest our high school.</p>

<p>One of the most common ways student’s cheat on the SAT is by two people walk into a testing center, they each use their own ID’s to check in, then write each other’s info on the test. No one checks the ID’s after the test, only before. </p>

<p>I was taking my accounting midterm the other day and they not only checked my ID before the test, but when I turned it in. </p>

<p>College Board checking ID’s at the end would not eliminate all cheating, but it would at least make it more challenging, because right now it is way too easy.</p>

<p>My kids several times took the SATs at other schools because our school was full. It’s pretty much a zoo when everyone arrives. They look at IDs, but not closely.</p>

<p>Just heard from the local news tonight that the test taker will be charged with a felony, but he’s still at Emory. Ouch! I think the kids who paid for this should also get charged, but maybe because they’re <18 yo, they won’t get charged.</p>

<p>It’s on NYT website now so I guess that makes it more “official” ;)</p>

<p><a href=“7 Long Island Students Charged in SAT Fraud Scheme - The New York Times”>7 Long Island Students Charged in SAT Fraud Scheme - The New York Times;

<p>“is the pressure to succeed that intense?”</p>

<p>Ever been to Great Neck? The pressure to get into the “right” pre-school is off the charts.</p>

<p>Re: Post #74
There is academic pressure in Great Neck (as in other North Shore Long Island communities), and there is pressure for Nursery Schools to be academic, but not much pressure to get into the “right” pre-school.</p>

<p>When it comes to high performing suburban school districts like Great Neck… pre-school reputation is not so much an issue as it is in NYC. Preschool does not determine the next school, since most kids in Great Neck go to extremely good, and well funded, public schools (or, more recently, parochial schools that don’t look for “feeder” nursery schools.)</p>

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<p>If only it were that easy. The main issue here is not proving that some has cheated once the identity of the tester is questioned. </p>

<p>When I saw your initial post about thumbprints I didn’t think you mean’t for that to be a way to confirm that someone has cheated. There are many other ways of doing that, which are already in place, the SAT halls are filled with students who can all serve as witnesses in such a case. </p>

<p>-But you’re missing the point here, proving that someone cheated once they are already being questioned isn’t the issue, the issue is to figure out who to “question” in the first place.</p>

<p>@sonsami New York = People with lots of money; I believe that’s the connection Xiggi meant to make, and I think its perfectly valid. These people that ‘pop’ in tests for other students are heavily paid to do so.</p>

<p>Some people will do anything…
[Seven</a> arrested in SAT cheating scandal in New York - latimes.com](<a href=“Seven arrested in SAT cheating scandal in New York”>Seven arrested in SAT cheating scandal in New York)</p>

<p>I have no doubt this sort of activity goes on in many places. My kids and I have talked about how easy it would be to do after they’ve taken it at other schools. School IDs are not hard to manufacture, driver’s permits are still on paper where we live. The only thing I’m surprised about his how low his fee was all things considered. In a world of $5000 prep courses, one would think he could have charged more, perhaps with performance bonuses at the other end.</p>

<p>What will happen to these kids? Are they all going to be expelled from their school?</p>

<p>When I was watching the news last night, they stated that some students were already accepted to and attending college. It looks like it is a combination of current and former students involved in this incident.</p>

<p>My concern is will this incident taint how colleges may view the scores of other students from this school?</p>