<p>^ and as long as your community supports those measures I have no problem with it.</p>
<p>DW’s hometown was one of those “rural areas” that put their own spin on the concept of “compulsory education.” My FIL dropped out … actually, “was withdrawn from school” is more accurate … in 8th Grade. He was needed to help farm. No one in town thought less of him for it. (It did limit his career options. He was a smart guy, but uneducated.)</p>
<p>It’s all a matter of perspective. He was probably educated and well-versed in areas which many of his peers knew little to nothing about but didn’t have a piece of paper to show for it.</p>
<p>Why is everyone so negative about this decision from the charter school? We need to encourage teens the importance of safe sex. If the woman decides to not use birth control, she shall suffer the consequences. Don’t pin this on men…</p>
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<p>I’d say yes, romani.</p>
<p>So now making non-liberal posts is trolling? The Parents forum seems to fit the typical New England left-wing radical that’s steering our country in the wrong direction.</p>
<p>Two. Tango.</p>
<p>I want to say so as well Ohio but unfortunately some people still think that way.</p>
<p>So, Virtuoso, if you feel females should suffer consequences for what you determine to be poor decisions, why don’t you feel males should suffer consequences for their poor decisions?</p>
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<p>Um…last I checked no matter how much we would like to make thing equal…the male does not have a uterus. The woman IS the one who suffers the consequences unless someone has figured out how to make the male actually carry a pregnancy to term. To deny that the female is just simply more vulnerable to the negative consequences of an unplanned pregnancy is to deny biology and the reality of the universe we currently reside in. </p>
<p>While it is important to make as many of the consequences also include the baby-daddy…said genetic material donor will still have the option and ability to distance themselves from the physical, emotional and health effects of a pregnancy. While we can legislate financial responsibility the reality is the consequence are so NOT equal. We could make it more equal by legislating a mandatory 9 month confinement for the involved male…anyone want to go there?</p>
<p>It is called reality folks - not addressing this issue bluntly and without P.C. speak with the young females of our society is…dumb.</p>
<p>Dietz, you’re putting up a straw man. If humans are going to mete out punishment in the form, for example, of being expelled, why should they mete out that punishment only to a female when a male was equally responsible for the predicament?</p>
<p>^^ Different context. In this context, it’s one getting kicked out of school for the pregnancy and not the other. If it takes two to make the baby, it should be two that face the consequences for that. No, not the physical pregnancy and such (although I would love for science to be able to do that lol).</p>
<p>I’m all for expelling the male. If the young lady identifies the sperm donor then there is no problem. If she doesn’t …then to make it ‘fair’ society will have impose mandatory genetic testing. Obviously it is easy to ‘catch’ the pregnant girl but then what…test ALL suspicious males? </p>
<p>I have a S and a D. BOTH know what their individual gender weaknesses and vulnerabilities are. Yes, there are male vulnerabilities as evidenced by a family member who received a notice from the state that he owed 32K in back child support - for offspring he did not know existed and was the result of a one night stand several years prior.</p>
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<p>There are some other countries in the world in which some of the posters on this thread might feel more at home.</p>
<p>Charter schools exist because public schools are failing, not the other way around.</p>
<p>Well, up until cartera’s post we had a plurality: Women can stay upwardly mobile up to the point they become pregnant, at which time they’re O-U-T … out of school, out of support, outcast in our just (and equal!) society. Seems fair. Now can we move on to the IMPORTANT issue? Keeping these outcasts from messing up the financial lives of their childrens’ fathers??? I’m sure most were forced into fatherhood. (I mean what teen male goes there willingly?)</p>
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<p>NewHope, I don’t think that’s the case at all. Where did you see a plurality on the last page? It wasn’t there. There was a discussion of one piece of a person’s argument. Just because that’s what was under discussion doesn’t tell you what everyone’s views happen to be on matters beyond it.</p>
<p>Cartera: The issue under discussion is how to make it ‘fair’ to both parties involved in the creation of a pregnancy. Biology makes is easier to identify the female party. It also happens to predetermine that the female is just simply more involved and more affected by the biology of a pregnancy. The quotes to which you responded…
would make the the situation more ‘fair’ which is what other posters expressed a desire to have happen. To be fair you need to specifically identify the male component, to be fair - since pregnancy involves suspension from this school - presumably for 9 months then it is reasonable to not only suspend the male involved but also ensure that the nine months are as restrictive and difficult as the actual pregnancy. It is also vital to make sure the correct male is identified (note, not as obvious as the female - danged that bio again). The goal is fairness and total equality. And yes, when one refuses to acknowledge the biological differences in the situation then one must entertain some rather unpopular ideas in an effort to make it ‘fair’.</p>
<p>^^ Deborah - I was just making the point … again … that community values are an essential component of understanding behaviors. So no, I don’t think most Americans are comfortable branding young mothers-to-be with a scarlet ‘P.’ Is teen pregnancy something to be encouraged? Probably not, but it’s certainly been ‘in favor’ at various times in our country’s history. Accordingly, punishing teen pregnancy is problematic from a moral standpoint … given that morality is supposed to be a (relatively) stable guide for society’s members.</p>
<p>Well, it’s probably best if you make your point without claiming others hold views that there’s no indication they hold.</p>
<p>Please don’t cast my views as something they’re not whatsoever.</p>