Well aren’t you a heart breaker…Well never mind…I will just be happy with what i get…you may close this thread if you want…Is there any way I can thank You…
You need to let OK at colleges from the LAC list. A degree in cs from any of those would get you nice opt opportunities. Then there are all the merit-based programs: Temple honors, UAlabama honors…and if you worry about level and quality, check out the thread on the Alabama forum titled something like “colleges my kid passed on to attend Alabama”
According to the 2013-14 CDS, for that year Boston University granted aid to 126 internationals, averaging $38,340. A note in section H6 does indicate, “Scholarship/grant aid is non‐need‐based”.
However, your chances of getting merit aid at BU may be higher than your chances of getting admission with need-based aid aid at a much more selective school. The only way to know for sure is to apply.
Brown, UChicago, Rice, and Duke are all much more selective than BU. The premise of your thread is that you are anxious about some of your qualifications. So you’d be right to add some schools that are not among the very most selective in the USA. Sure, take a shot at a couple of the top 20 universities if you like, but understand that admission to those schools is not too likely (for nearly anyone, but particularly for an international who needs a lot of aid.) Furthermore, some of those T20 schools aren’t even especially strong in computer engineering. Rice, Johns Hopkins and Northwestern all seem to be stronger in that area (and are a bit less selective) than Yale or Brown … but you do need to add some schools that are more in the range of Boston University or Case Western. Also look at schools like the University of Alabama that guarantee merit aid for your stats.
Or, perhaps consider colleges outside the USA. Canada, maybe? Unfortunately, many American colleges with the best computer engineering programs are state universities that give little or no aid to internationals. Their primary obligation is to students in their own states. Another possibility is to consider majoring in computer science + psychology at a small liberal arts college.
I did consider some from Canada too McGill University seemed pretty good… British Columbia also was good… …University of Toronto appeared to be one of my reach colleges…But I have no knowledge of financial aid in those University’s for international…Can you tell me something about them…
And for me anything under Top 60 colleges will do… Given they meet my full demonstrated need…
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Your stats will likely not get you admitted to the handful of schools that award need based aid to internationals. Some schools like University of Alabama may give you significant merit aid.
It appears that many top 40 LACs offer need-based aid to internationals (or need-based and merit aid, too).
Examples: Hamilton, Davidson, Oberlin, Grinnell, Colby, Bates, Macalester.
These are only the ones I’ve checked. These 7 schools have average SAT CR+M scores a bit below 1400. So unless the averages are much higher for internationals, the OP may have a shot at these schools.
An international student must demonstrate ability to cover all costs in order to get a visa.
So, if these colleges admit an international student with need, they have an incentive to offer enough aid to cover full need. That may explain why the average aid packages tend to be so high ($30K to $50K+) at these colleges.
Some of them (like Macalester) seem to have decent CS programs.
http://www.macalester.edu/academics/mscs/
http://www.macalester.edu/academics/mscs/about/alumni/
http://www.cs.grinnell.edu/
https://www.grinnell.edu/news/grinnells-computer-science-curriculum-and-major-receive-international-recognition
@TomSrOfBoston @tk21769 Can’t I get any good National University …I really don’t wanna go to LAC’s…
Why don’t you want to go to LACs?
Those are among the most prestigious colleges in the US (ie., getting into Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Harvey Mudd, Carleton, etc., is like getting into Brown or Cornell or Case Western or in some cases better.) AND they
I can’t imagine your criteria favor big stadium-football, but even if it’s the case, as an international who needs aid, you really need to drop any “sports” and “party” criteria.
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These 7 schools have average SAT CR+M scores a bit below 1400. So unless the averages are much higher for internationals, the OP may have a shot at these schools.
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They are. Any LAC in the top 40 is for internationals who need aid like a “reach for everyone” school for Americans: insanely hard to get into, but if you do you get a great financial aid package.
OP: don’t think just in terms of rankings. Look into Honors Colleges and whether they offer great merit aid. Penn State Schreyer and Pitt Honors for instance are excellent honors colleges, but neither offers much merit aid to internationals, whereas Temple does.
OP needs to realize that beggars can’t be choosers. The tippy top schools that he wants to go to and that guarantee full demonstrated need are too competitive for him to get into. The next level of national research universities that he wants to go to either don’t offer aid to internationals or have very competitive full tuition scholarships that OP is not competitive for. His best chance is to apply to colleges outside of the first 2 tiers that offer generous guaranteed merit aid for internationals and to less selective liberal arts colleges that are generous with need based aid, but he has something against schools not in the top 60. There are a ton of great schools outside of the top 60 that OP would be LUCKY to get into…Texas A&M, BYU, Clemson, Purdue, UMDCP, Baylor, Virginia Tech, UMNTC, etc.
OP - Students like you are a dime a dozen so you have to stop focusing on schools that you would be lucky to into, and instead look at schools that think they would be lucky to have you. Those schools are the ones that would offer you lots of money just to go to their school, despite the fact that you’re a poor ORM international student.
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… offer financial aid.
OP, you must remember that there are 3,700 universities in the US. Colleges in the top 100 for LACs, top 40 for universities + Honors Programs at Top100 universities + roughly top 10-20 Regional Universities are all very good (top 5-10%).
Don’t think you’re “settling”. These universities will have excellent facilities, resources, and professors. Opportunities unlikely to be available in your country. Add to this the fact that in the US, people look at what YOU did, not your university’s name.
@MYOS1634 @tk21769 @TomSrOfBoston @Irreplaceable @ Ok everyone I understand it now…So what you are saying is that I would be better of getting a good Liberal Arts College with my full need than a 2-3 tier national college with no promise of financial assistance…
@Irreplaceable I so you meant to say that I have a shot at UMNTC(University of Minnisota -Twin City thats what you meant right),Purdue and Texas A&M with my full need…I would be happy to attend these Specially UMNTC…
@MYOS1634 @tk21769 @TomSrOfBoston @Irreplaceable And I think I may have misconception here …cCan you guys please clear up what exactly is the difference between National Universities and Libral Arts Colleges…
A national university is usually large with a broad range of doctoral programs. A LAC is small and usually only offers arts and science undergraduate degrees. There are prestigious LAC’s and mediocre national universities.
@MYOS1634 @tk21769 @TomSrOfBoston @Irreplaceable Ok now I get it…SO which is the best LAC for Computer Engineering coupled with a minor in psychology WITH my full need I saw Williams But it does not offer Computer Engineering and also I don’t think I would have gotten in…Do you know anything about University of Britsh Columbia its acceptance rate is 64% and it has good scholarship…I must be missing something…Is there some difference in US programs and Canadian programs…
LACs typically dont have engineering, but check out Union, Lafayette, Southwestern U, Swarthmore(that one only if you’re a very hard worker). I’ll check for more and report back
Studying computer science would open more places.
In Canada, only your grades and test scores matter whereas for admission in the us everything matters. You only study one subject whereas in the us you aren’t consideredcollege- educated unless you’ve taken a few classes in a variety of “general culture” classes.
@MYOS1634 Thnks man great help…So what kind of difference’s do a graduate from US and a graduate from Canada have…I mean in matters of Pay grade …Admission to Post-Graduate School’s…
A CS graudate from Canada can work then become a permanent resident in 3 years. None of this exists in the US, you’ll have 27 months of OPT and then either you move to Canada or you go to grad school. (There’s this weird policy on working visas, and by the way your STUDENT visa will only be granted if you want to STUDY. So forget about work).
For postgraduate (in the US we say “graduate” ) programs, your college doesn’t matter, only your personal achievements. Being part of a LAC (which tend to prepare more heavily to grad schools) or an honors program (research experience) is a plus, but if you can find research experience and a professor-mentor at a large research university, you’re good too…
You will find more temperate to warm to tropical locations in the US, but there are plenty of super cold states too.
@MYOS1634 @tk21769 @TomSrOfBoston do you think I have a shot at University of Minnesota-Twin Cities(with my financial need Ofcourse)… It’s seemed good …With my computer Engineering as a major and psychology as a minor…If not then I will have to settle for some good LAC…