Major downsize - have you done it? Would you please share the good, the bad, and the ugly?

@MotherOfDragons You are so organized!

@traveler98 Like you, I’d like a little bit of yard. I don’t think I’m ready to go back to zero yard and sharing walls with others yet. I’ve got a neighbor that drives me nuts and we both sit on several acres so I’m not sure I want that close proximity, although I know maintenance for that type of set up would be much lower. Around me, in addition to huge prices for the nice condos, the condo fees are pretty outrageous. I also would like something green and energy efficient and I think the best way to get that would be to build.

We started purging seriously a couple of years ago, and finally made the move seven months ago. Our experience was a bit different - it worked for us - we refer to it as ‘simplifying’ as opposed to ‘downsizing’ because we really didn’t change the amount of living space we have; we moved from a single-family home to a condo. But we no longer have a basement or garage for storage (of course the stuff we had in the garage is mostly stuff we no longer need anymore since we don’t have a yard or pool). We do have an attic, but have tried to minimize stuff we keep up there. When we moved, my first focus was to get our living area organized and decorated; during the summer months it was too hot to go up in the attic to work on organizing it, so now that it has cooled down, that will be my next project.

Even though we got rid of a lot of stuff prior to moving, I still got rid of a lot of stuff after we moved, and still have stuff to get rid of. How did I do it? Combination of things - a designer I work with had resources for me that she’d dealt with - several community closed Facebook garage sale groups and a consignment shop. And lots of donations. I maybe put a few things up on Craigslist - mostly things we were giving away, but the donation places wouldn’t take them.

While getting settled took much longer than we anticipated (we had a major cosmetic redo project go bad and had to be redone by the contractor), we have so much more free time to do things we want to do. A few weeks ago I mentioned to H that I’d never known him to play so much golf in a summer and he told me, “It’s because I don’t have a yard or pool to take care of.” We moved into an interesting community. It was once an army base that was decommissioned in 1994 and all the buildings were retrofitted and converted into either condos, townhouses, or single-family homes. So our building is actually 135 years old, and is listed in the National Registry of Historic Places, so nothing along the lines of boring ‘builder grade’ designs. Throughout the community, there are no two condos, single-family homes, or townhouses that have the same floor plan; we have fun going through other properties when they have open houses to see how different they all are. We are also surrounded by open lands due to forest preserve and an open lands preserve abutting our community. The area is marketed toward active empty nesters, although some of the single-family homes (which had been officer’s quarters) have some children, but not a lot. I’ve got about four miles of hiking/walking trails right out my front door (I may give cross-country skiing a try this winter!).

Two things we had to make sacrifices on were: our garage is not attached - you have to go outside to get to the garage, but we do have a two-car garage. Also, there are no elevators in the buildings - we are on the second floor and it’s 20 steps from lobby common area to our floor (and another 8 or so from front lawn to door to building). But once we are inside our unit, the only stairs we have are up to the loft, where we have our office, and several days can go by without my going up there. Otherwise all living space is on one level. Despite these two sacrifices, we are very happy with our decision to move - it’s about 25-30 minutes from where we did live, and H is now also a few miles closer to work, with a traffic flow that has little back up. We have also discovered a lot of people from the company he works for live here.

And as for the pooch in my avatar picture, we have found, I kid you not, at least 14 other Cavaliers back in this community - it’s VERY dog friendly, and a lot of people we’ve met have come about when we’ve been out walking him. That was a concern of mine, that we were taking away his fenced-in backyard, but he probably gets more exercise in the 4-5 times a day he gets walked now.

Thanks for all the replies!

@MotherOfDragons - I haven’t followed that particular minimalist blog, but I have been following another one - Becoming Minimlaist - and am definitely on board. Though, many of my stuff-loving friends think I’m crazy. I am not overly sentimental and won’t have too much trouble with letting things go. I have almost gotten a superiority complex about it. I get twitchy if I am in someone’s home that seems to have too much stuff for my minimizing tastes. I don’t want to move items to dust. We, too, want simplification. I love your spreadsheet/timeline idea!! That is probably a similar timeline for us.

@HarvestMoon1 - I am really not that concerned about getting much money out of our furniture and home decor items, and I am all about ease of selling. I can’t imagine myself doing any of it on Craigslist or eBay or whatnot. The only exception might be within a neighborhood FB group. I suppose I am just too lacking initiative to do it myself. I don’t want to get rid of things that add to the aesthetic of our current home as I want it to look nice when we sell. So, I would choose ease and getting it done all at once, even if that comes with a high commission. Not sure what options are available with regard to living estate sales or auctions and which is the better way to go, though. I certainly want to get as much as I can, but I don’t have high expectations.

@“great lakes mom” and @intparent - can you please tell me more about your under bed storage? Did you put your bed on risers? Or do you have beds with integrated storage built in? What sort of things do you store under your bed?

@WISdad23 and @doschicos - as far as quality of construction goes, our condo is well-built as it was constructed during the 70’s. The interior was updated about seven years ago and is well-done, though a bit bland/neutral. I would also anticipate making cosmetic changes to walls, flooring, window treatments, etc. I do agree on nice! If I am only going to have 935 sq ft, I am going to have what I want.

@BerneseMtnMom - since you are in the thick of it, please come back to this thread in the future and share your insights as you go!

I’m hoping to find a smaller house in the next few years that will serve as our retirement basecamp. I’d like a house at around 1500 above ground living space, but has a basement bonus room and maybe a garage.
We own 3 houses right now, none super big. My wife thinks it’s become a pain. So will pick 1 place to live. and I’m planning on buying a lightweight travel trailer I can use to escape for stretches at a time.

I think 1500 square feet is the smallest I’d like to go. I’d like to have room for some guests. I’d like a great room, office, maybe a work out zone, master bed with bath. I hate cooking so the kitchen can be small. I’d like a finished basement, so we could have a place for guests to stay and another living area to use.

Oh. And on dogs. Our condo building is dog-friendly. We currently have one dog. We are unsure of his age as she was a shelter dog, though young when we got him. We’ve had him 13 years, so time will tell if he is still around whenever we make the move. We plan to remain dog-free for at least a year after he passes. It would be so much easier to be spontaneous without a fur baby, but I’m not sure how it will be. We’ve pretty much always had a dog. We’ll see how we feel after our dog-free trial run. Not having a yard and having to walk a dog would be a big change for us.

I thought the same thing! :slight_smile:

We just ‘downsized’ - sold our house in south Florida and bought something in north central Florida. In fairness our ‘new’ house (which is old) is not much smaller, and it’s actually laid out better.

Rather than pay $$$ to move our furniture (again, after a move many years ago), we sold most of it on Craigslist. We are starting new with certain pieces, but staying smaller in scale and less invested. Nice but not too nice.

Renovating this house has just about driven me crazy. Honestly I feel ready for a rubber room some days. My H and I get very stressed and argue which is not like us.

Never again (you read it here) will I do a remodel, with one exception - a condo on the beach. I just can’t take it anymore. This morning when I caught myself ranting to a person here painting, I knew. No mas.

I do think you have to be realistic about downsizing. You may want to rent some smaller places on VRBO just to get a feel for it. Lay-out is key too.

Thanks @MotherOfDragons! I am going to do exactly that.

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Great point. Sick of renovating old stuff. I’d really like to find a newer home, I’d prefer not to build it ourselves. But I want some recent construction with modern features i.e. ac, good heating, good windows, etc.

I guess I am in the minority - I would also want a pet-unfriendly condo. People seem deaf to their barking and yapping dogs. Most dog owners pick up after them but few seem to mind their dogs barking endlessly. Same for smokers and smoking. I guess I need a house on an island.

Thought about something after my post that I think might be helpful for some people. One of my issues in having ‘less’ was all the framed photos I had around my house. Lots of them, and with more windows in our new place and less wall and flat spaces to display my photos, I realized I had to get creative if I wanted to still display my photos. So what I did (because I’m computer illiterate with this kind of thing) was work with a graphic artist - I took 90% of my framed photos out of the frames, gave them to her, she scanned them, converted them to black and white, and made three different collages that we had printed out on canvas, each 20"x36". They just arrived this week and we are going to hang them up the stairway to the loft - part of that stairway opens to the dining room/kitchen, so you will be able to see them. We went with black and white because I didn’t want all the colors of that many different pictures to clash or fight with my color palette in the condo. I will now put all the originals into photo albums, so we will still have them, but only the B&W will be on display for those pictures.

Of course, then I donated all my frames to Goodwill, so they are out of the condo!

Would love to have your as a neighbor, WISdad. Hate barking dogs and smokers.

Trying to instill the idea of moving into Mr. B’s brain. His commute is 10-15 min one way, mine can take 2 hours. It can be quite tiring. If we move just 10-15 miles south, Mr. B’s commute will be 20 min, and mine would be 1 hour on a really bad traffic day. Since I plan on working until I am 83, I need a shorter commute. :slight_smile:

@WISdad23 That is one of the main problems with my neighbor - 2 dogs that bark endlessly and crap on our lawn. X( Find a good sized island and I’ll live on one end and you can live on the other.

@SouthFloridaMom9 - yes, it will be interesting to see if our experiment will work. To me, 1,200 - 1,500 sq ft might be better. Our situation/needs may change depending on ds’s choices about marrying, having children. We want to try, I think we can make it work. My childhood friends live in the same condo building full-time have and loved being in a smaller place. They downsized from 3,600 sq ft. If it doesn’t work, we will sell it and buy something bigger!

Add me to the list of those hoping to downsize in a couple of years when the youngest graduates from high school. My problem is that DH is totally on board with downsizing, in fact he is stronger on it than I am, but he hates, hates, hates getting rid of stuff. He wants to put everything in storage. I am a minimalist at heart and too much stuff around me really stresses me out. I’m also frugal so the thought of paying to store junk that we will never even look at and will all just get trashed eventually is painful.

I just use Tupperware tubs and some clear boxes from storage aisles at stores like Target. One annoyance is that the twin beds in my 2nd bedroom are really low and I can’t put much under them. But my bed is fairly high. I have luggage (soft sided items nested inside each other), wrapping paper, a box with sheets/pillowcases/extra blanket, etc), a couple tubs of books (had a few more than will fit in the 4 bookcases I moved :frowning: ). And my silver is under there on top of one of the boxes.

I also have some extra space under my corner desk in the living room. I got a couple of attractive patterned boxes from Ikea and keep paper & office supplies in them. And I have some bottled water there for emergencies.

I also got a nicer cloth covered box from Ikea, and it fits in a corner of the kitchen area – it is full of all my plastic food containers for packing lunches, leftovers, etc. I also put more things inside other things – like my soup pot has a bag with paper plates, cups, & plastic silverware in it. And I stack things in storage. A friend who is a doctor in a surgery setting gave me all this stuff they get large items wrapped in for the hospital. It is great for wrapping things for moving, and I cut it into pieces to layer between stacked items like ceramic serving bowls so they don’t scratch.

“One annoyance is that the twin beds in my 2nd bedroom are really low and I can’t put much under them”

Have you thought about getting those bed risers they sell for dorm beds for your twin beds?

I think the key to living in small spaces is having items that can do double or triple duty, something folks in expensive cities where space is at a premium are used to doing. People in NYC, SF, places like Tokyo and Hong Kong are good at doing this. Built in storage like the banquettes mentioned before, ottomans with storage space, an entry table that has drawers, beds with built in storage, etc.

Nothing, nothing will be ever stored under my bed. That’s the cats’ playground. If I have to store stuff under the bed, it means I have too much stuff, and it needs to be purged!

^^I agree - it’s a pet peeve of mine. Under the bed is NOT out of sight, out of mind for me - it’s dust bunnies PLUS stuff under the bed! I like to see the bare, clean wood floor under my beds!

Isn’t stuff under the bed bad feng shui?