@NateandAllisMom I would also second what @Gumbymom says about ASU Barrett. It was very pleasantly surprising on our visit. My daughter qualified for a full tuition ride OOS, which makes it a lot less than the UCs, and I think it will be a finalist. The school caters to students and it made a larger ASU campus feel small. If your child is majoring in CS, Intel and other tech companies recruit ASU hard.