Match my dandelion child who wants to be a civil engineer, to schools with excellent merit aid [4.0 GPA, 35 ACT]

One was at a school that is very close to us that doesn’t have engineering. The others were from schools where combining engineering and NCAA sports didn’t seem realistic. He also has gotten interest from a service academy but he isn’t interested in the military.

He didn’t take the PSAT 10. At his school, and many of the schools in our area, the sophomores and certain freshmen take the NMSQT in the fall. He took it as a freshman to have a score to share with coaches.

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I have decided not to share my state or the sport, due to privacy concerns.

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To be clear he has interest but not offers. I think that is normal at this stage? D1 coaches can’t talk to him yet.

But my understanding is that if/when offers come they ask for a response pretty quickly so he needs to have thought things through.

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That’s why I suggested the D2 engineering tech schools, where almost everyone is an engineer (or at least STEM) and therefore almost all the athletes are engineers. At my daughter’s school, Florida Tech, the school works with the athletic department to design schedules that work. For example, all math exams (not quizzes, just the exams) are given on Thursday nights so the teams can leave for the weekend on Friday mornings. The coaches know this so do not schedule games on exam thursday nights. Professors also allow students to take quizzes at 8 am on Friday mornings so that the team can leave if necessary.

Civil engineering program is small, but there are other departments that offer water courses (although you said as of right not he’s not interested in Ocean Engineering). Many students take extensive internships to development their personal interests.

Just an example. I think Colorado School of Mines, or even South Dakota SOM would offer great engineering and sports. Not Arabic, but at least in Colorado he could probably take the courses at other nearby schools (Regis, U of Denver, CU-Boulder, CU Denver/Metro State are all on light rail/bus routes and within 30 min of Golden).

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Case offered my son a merit award equal to 50% of his tuition. Many CC students who applied the same year were offered similar, or even more generous, awards. CWRU practices yield management, so if your son is interested he needs to demonstrate lots of interest. I have seen them defer very high stat students the AO assumed were using Case as a safety.

Feel free to message me if you want to know more about Case.

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Case’s yield is actually quite low. Only 1/16 non ED accepted attend per CDS.

Given their difficulty in closing the sale (getting students to attend), this may be a boon for merit seekers.

Like any business, some revenue is better than none.

You are smart to be thinking ahead as are we with twin sophomores. The groundwork is laid now so no sense waiting until it’s too late to change the outcome. We too will be college shopping/researching in both sophomore and junior year. I agree with the idea of the cheapest bachelors however if you can “get more” (however YOU define that) for the same price I would certainly try.

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WashU offers a minor in Arabic Studies and has a good engineering program. Many Boeing employees did their graduate work there.

I would request a copy of your School Profile from the counselor. This is sent to colleges with transcripts so you can see how he will compare to other students in his own school. It will also show what type of courses he had the chance to take. It will show you where students usually matriculate. Also find out from the counselors if anyone from your school has matriculated to a particular college of interest. Your student will be compared within the context of his own school.

WashU is one of the most expensive schools in the US, OP has a budget.

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it’s a Hail Mary school - like Vandy.

They have full and half ride scholarships.

The Danforth and Ervin at WUSTL.

If one loves it, they could apply with the knowledge I’ll only go if I get one - but it’s a Hail Mary for sure - and should only be on the dream list, not the primary list.

WashU Office of Scholar Programs

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Agree civil engineering is particularly difficult to study in the US and work abroad because engineering codes are different. I’ve heard it compared to studying law in the US and then trying to practice law abroad. It is possible, but not an easy transition.Even going abroad as a civil engineer trying to take major related classes is difficult unless you stick to a US university with an abroad campus.

The poster didn’t provide a budget. Regardless, with merit aid, and possible financial aid, which can’t be ruled out, WashU has an Arabic Studies Minor which they are interested in.

We know a student admitted with far less credentials so regardless of how the poster views it personally (target, reach, etc.), could be a good option for this smart student.

Unfortunately, WashU doesn’t offer civil engineering, which is what OP wants to major in. Great school, but not sure it’s an academic fit for anyone wanting civil engineering specifically.

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Hail Mary from a budget POV…not academically.

When you want to hit $35K and you are full pay, WUSTL is a Hail Mary. You have to win Danforth or Ervin.

That’s what I meant.

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Honestly, when I first heard of International, I thought of URI.

They have the International Engineering Program that includes a year abroad.

The issue is the language - B.A. in Chinese, French, German, Italian, Spanish, or Global Language Area Studies with a concentration in Japanese.

They don’t have Arabic or Turkish - but = if OP was interested in the program, it might be worth a call to the program head - maybe a make your own international major could be made or other arrangements. Perhaps they have had students in the program that haven’t fit language wise.

They certainly have experience with students studying Arabic.

So if the program sounds reasonable (and it’s a reasonable cost school), perhaps it’s worth a conversation with the school. Three language flagships for Arabic (Ole Miss, Arizona, UGA) complete their year abroad in Morocco - so maybe URI can set something up similar??

Two URI freshmen awarded prestigious scholarships for summer language studies abroad – Rhody Today

I think that is true if you want to build a life and a career as a civil engineer in Germany or the UK then doing undergrad in Germany or the UK.

But he isn’t looking for that. He is looking to be part of the disaster response team that comes in to find drinking water after an Earthquake in rural Turkey, or to establish sanitation systems for an Ebola clinic in Africa. I think US trained engineers do work in those contexts, although obviously not easy jobs to get or do.

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I thought it was $35,000