<p>My brother concurrently attended Tufts University and New England Conservatory and in five years received both a BA in violin performance and a BS in mathematics. I don’t know if they still have this joint program. He became an actuary, played music and served on the board of several music non-profits for “fun” and is enjoying the best of both worlds!</p>
<p>…actually he got a BM at New England Conservatory and says he thinks the dual degree program is still offered with Tufts</p>
<p>Yes, the dual degree program is still offered with Tufts/NEC and is well worth considering. However, admission to NEC on flute is going to be very difficult. There is a parent who posts on the music major forum whose son just graduated last year from that program.</p>
<p>As for colleges which offer BA’s in music, but are known to be strong in music - often there is a choice of concentrations within the major, one of which is performance.</p>
<p>Smith and Amherst will be the first places I look at if I decide on the BA in music because they are both in the five college cross registration agreement.</p>
<p>I don’t exactly need another reach school, but I will do some more research on the Tufts/NEC idea and see what comes up. Maybe I can find some information about flute admission rates.</p>
<p>You’re not going to find anything about admission rates for music performance. It varies from year to year depending on who is graduating, how many students are in the particular studio, and other unknown or unpredictable factors. There may be openings for five flutes, or only one, or maybe even none (that does happen at some of the smaller programs on certain instruments.)</p>
<p>Again, lots of information on the Music Major forum about Flute Performance. Do a search with the word flute in ‘titles only.’ Here’s some:
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/224146-schools-flute-help.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/224146-schools-flute-help.html</a>
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/1217296-flute-performance-major.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/1217296-flute-performance-major.html</a>
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/484442-good-colleges-not-conservatories-flute.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/484442-good-colleges-not-conservatories-flute.html</a></p>
<p>I have actually looked at two of these threads before you even posted them! </p>
<p>On a completely different note, since all of my reach schools are extreme reaches, how would SUNY Potsdam be as a reasonable reach, or even a match?</p>
<p>Crane at SUNY Potsdam is certainly worth exploring. I know nothing about the math department. Nor how hard it is to be admitted to the flute studio. SUNY’s are usually quite reasonable for out of state students, however, financially.</p>
<p>I have been doing some (more) research. I have a whole new set of schools that can be added to my match (?) list. Remember, my entire list will be considerably shortened. Right now, I’m just trying to get all of my options straight.</p>
<p>SUNY Potsdam
SUNY Fredonia
College of Wooster
Ithaca College
Northern Kentucky University (I would prefer a smaller school.)
West Chester U of PA (Same here.)
West Texas A & M
Shenanadoah
U Hartford and Hartt</p>
<p>Which of these schools (if any) should I consider? I would like more schools in my match list, and these were the ones that I could come up with that had match-ish level acceptance rates.</p>
<p>What made you choose those particular schools? What criteria are you using? Such as Northern Kentucky U and Wester Chester U of PA or West Texas A&M? They don’t usually pop up on music lists. Are they actuarial math colleges? Shenandoah may be the closest you’ve come to a match/safety for flute. Although I hesitate to call any music program a safety for flute.</p>
<p>West Chester is just a directional, so you’d be better off with Central WA U. Same for Northern KY.
Wooster is a great school - fairly easy to get into but focused student body, good track record with grad schools.</p>
<p>Most of this list is from other music threads, but I’m not truly interested in all of them. Mostly just Ithaca, Hartford, Wooster, and Shenandoah. Also, my parents probably wouldn’t appreciate me going to a state school where we would have to pay out-of-state tuition.
Would Hartford/Hartt be a reach school?</p>
<p>If you’re interested in SUNYs, check out SUNY Purchase College - it has a music conservatory as well as a college of liberal arts; it’s a small environment and is known as an “artsy” place. Purchase is also just an hour north of NYC and the distance can be traveled by public transit, in case you’re interested in seeing performances in the city. You can also minor in music here, and the music minor is pretty serious - including private lessons, theory, solfege, orchestral participation and music history.</p>
<p>-University of Miami is also probably a match for you, and it has the Frost School of Music.
-Southern Methodist University could be another match for you; they have the Meadows School of the Arts with a music major.
-Depaul University in Chicago is another match option.
-Loyola New Orleans has a school of music with a performance concentration, but emphasizes that students may minor or major in another field.
-Duquesne has a school of music but is also a great school in Pittsburgh that is a match for you.
-Rollins College in FL has a department of music that may appeal to you while also having a math major.</p>
<p>Other suggestions for matches are Temple, Samford (AL), Boston U.</p>
<p>As a side note, a lot of people will say that you need to go somewhere with a lot of graduate-level math courses, and may insist that a small college or directional state U may not have enough for you. That’s only true, IMO, if you’re coming in as a VERY advanced math student - aka you’ve already taken multivariable calculus and several other math classes. Most college math curricula are designed for students who are starting from calculus I; even if you start in calculus II, you’re really only one class ahead, and most college students at top schools (and many in mid-ranked schools) have taken calculus I in college. There are enough classes at most LACs to round out the math major of someone starting calculus II (or even calculus III) in their first semester. Most colleges will also let you take cognate courses (like physics or computer science) to round out the major, and programming languages are a good idea for an actuarial hopeful.</p>
<p>Thank you for the suggestions!
Out of the schools you have suggested, three stand out to me.</p>
<p>Rollins
SUNY Purchase
U of Miami</p>
<p>Would these all be matches?</p>
<p>Hi - Sorry I did not find this thread earlier! Yes, many years ago I did a dual degree in performance (B Mus) and a a BA in chemistry at Hartt and the University of Hartford. It took 4.5 years and three summers of classes. I could have gotten the BS in chemistry but was getting ‘burnt out’ so I settled for the BA. It was totally worth doing though because I really wanted to do both and this was a college that let me. I attended Hartt with Janet Arms, the current professor of flute, we were students and she was wonderful back then and I hear she is still a fantastic teacher. She was actually mentoring all of us even though she was a student herself back then. You will probably get a nice merit scholarship from the University of Hartford as I did back then. </p>
<p>SUNY Purchase does not allow double majors if I remember correctly. We visited Rollins and heard their jazz band and it was good.</p>
<p>I would still keep a few reaches like Williams, Wesleyan and Vassar 0n your list. We have much experience with Vassar and their music is excellent. Also at Vassar, there only a few distribution requirements so it is easier to double major. Check the course catalog and see exactly what you would be taking - that will help you to see if a school will work out for what your want to do.</p>
<p>MYOS, West Chester University is in a town called West Chester founded in the 1700s. Not a directional in the usual sense.</p>
<p>It’s part of PASSHE, which is Pennsylvania’s “directional” system, although the name doesn’t really indicate that. It’s the best one among PASSHE. And of course there’s Penn State 2+2 system which complicates things when apprehending PASSHE. 
In any case although it’s the best among PASSHE schools it wouldn’t make any sense for OP.</p>
<p>MYOS, how are you using “directional”?</p>
<p>as in: a state university that serves a region or section of the state where it’s located and often includes a “direction” in its name but not necessarily (eg., Radford, CNU, Longwood in VA are directionals without directions in their names). Typically fairly unselective or, if selective, with easy requirements.
What are the other meanings?</p>
<p>well, I was familiar with directional as a state school that has “north/south/east/west/central state u” in its name. but I guess I had ignored the notion that directional means “serves a region of a state.” I also had somewhere in my mind that directional means “directs the students to the state flagship” ;+) So I don’t know what i was thinking.</p>
<p>WCU is a state school that serves southeastern PA, particularly montgomery, delaware, and chester counties, but it doesn’t have the north/south/… in its name and indeed students come from all over the state and region to go there. </p>