<p>I found this on the GOP website.</p>
<p>“Obama, Change we can’t afford”</p>
<p>This election will be interesting.</p>
<p>I had no idea what a “post turtle” was. When I googled it, it was posted on every GOP blog. </p>
<p>Here it is for anyone else who had no idea what the reference was about. Someone thought is was clever I guess.</p>
<p>"While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas Rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our President.</p>
<p>The old rancher said, ‘Well, ya know, Obama is a post turtle’.'</p>
<p>Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ‘post turtle’ was.</p>
<p>The old rancher said, ‘When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.’</p>
<p>The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain. 'You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb a$$ put him up there."</p>
<p>So I guess to “Scary Black Man!” we have to add “Stupid Black Man!” I think the first might work, but the second is going to be harder, especially once the debates get started.</p>
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<p>Wow, they are really letting Obama define the terms of the debate. This is the trap the Democrats have often fallen into for the last 20 years or so. If your message is a reaction to his message, then you’re at a disadvantage from the start.</p>
<p>Well, that’s the challenge for McCain. He can’t run on the status quo, because of the abysmally low ratings the Bush administration has, not just on the war but on the state of the country in general. He also has to claim that he’s going to change things.</p>
<p>“As for Condi Rice - how could anyone not like her? She’s brilliant, eloquent, and probably the most capable person in public office anywhere.”</p>
<p>She just seems to have a little problem with “truthiness”. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Yeah. Cause we know that our politicians never lie. Somehow it seems ok when you like the one lying and a problem when you don’t.</p>
<p>Oh, I’m all in favor of politicians lying. Heck, that’s what I pay them for. What I abhore are politicians who do it badly, and are so easily found out! Madame “We Don’t Rendition” Mendaciousness falls into the latter category.</p>
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<p>You from the south, ain’t cha’?</p>
<p>That post turtle joke was funny—hopefully, not accurate, but funny nonetheless…</p>
<p>Mini, you have riffed on this “liking political liars” --good ones-- quite a bit.</p>
<p>I ask sincerely:</p>
<p>Could you list some specific instances of the lies and liars that you find admirable in politics and politicians so that the rest of us --political na</p>
<p>Re: post #49 Must be southern humor ? ;)</p>
<p>Yeah. I didn’t get it either…</p>
<p>"Could you list some specific instances of the lies and liars that you find admirable in politics and politicians so that the rest of us --political na</p>
<p>The post turtle “joke” is designed to make people think that “somebody” put Obama where he is–that he didn’t do it on his own, that he’s a hapless nobody who is being manipulated by somebody else. It’s designed to diminish his own abilities and achievements, including the very savvy campaign he’s run. I find it ironic that this particular meme is being pushed by the party of George W. Bush.</p>
<p>Hunt - I hear you - and your point is well-taken. GWB never should’ve been president. It was McCain’s from the start. I’m amazed that JM has been able to endure the last 8 yrs. (I guess after the Hanoi Hilton it isn’t too bad!).</p>
<p>Now is the time to make things right. McCain - more than anyone - is uniquely qualified to understand the problems facing the U.S. </p>
<p>(<strong>I’m sure he’s been watching over the current administration w/ a particularly discerning eye!</strong>).</p>
<p>McCain knows what is broken & what to do about it. I’m just thankful he’s stuck around to give it another shot.</p>
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<p>He himself as admitted he doesn’t know what to do – “don’t know much about economics.” And on Iraq, he’s fed the Big Lie.</p>
<p>We need a president who will consider the options intelligently, talk about the options with the American, and make decisions after listening to some of the most intelligent advisors. This is Obama, not McCain.</p>
<p>Have you listened to McCain on McCain:</p>
<p>[YouTube</a> - The Real McCain 2](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLfsG8XKWfw]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLfsG8XKWfw)</p>
<p>McCain knows what’s broken, because he helped break it by voting along with Bush on almost everything for the last few years. I hope if he wins he is able to flip back to his previously independent self, buy why should we assume that he will?</p>
<p>Yeah, his independent “Keating Five” self. (But then, he didn’t understand economics then either.)</p>
<p>FYI (lest you continue to spread falsehoods) McCain was exonerated from wrongdoing in Keating 5.</p>
<p>I feel confident that once McCain is in office he’ll have a mind of his own. Sometime you just gotta “play the game” which is what I feel that McCain has done over the past few years in order to shore up support within his own party. Just ask Obama - it appears he’s mastered that strategy already - on many levels.</p>
<p>In any case, I just can’t see handing the keys to the Free World to such a juvenile - Obama’s younger than I am, for cryin’ out loud! (When he gets some maturity & wisdom, he’ll probably become a Republican!).</p>
<p>Yes, there was no ILLEGAL action proven (he himself admitted to errors in judgment, so I don’t know why you would go out of your way to doubt him. Do you think he lies?). But then he didn’t understand it in any case.</p>