<p>I think to save the other people on this show, they should recast his role…not even sure if they should use the same character name but Robert Downey jr would work or even Stamos has been mentioned…</p>
<p>I actually think that the other characters on the show could carry it with the right replacement…</p>
<p>classof2015: I have a feeling we haven’t heard the last of this; and that CBS isn’t really saying why this was the “straw that broke the camel’s back” so to speak…</p>
<p>and I vote for bipolar but am not a doctor nor do I play one on TV…</p>
<p>You will usually be disappointed if you expect television producers to be concerned about moral messages. If you must blame someone, blame those who tuned in week after week. They held the power to make a statement. Although I don’t think it is the job of the audience to pass moral judgment either. People are flawed and if we stop doing business with the flawed ones, there would be little going on in our lives.</p>
<p>I think CBS cancelled the show because Charlie Sheen is clearly out of control and they don’t want to try to work with a loose cannon. I also think other posters are right and he is in the manic phase of a bipolar condition. Either that or all of the drug use has still left a mark even though he has been clean for a few days, (based on his passing the drugs screening).</p>
<p>PRJ: how could you call him an “emerging adult”? Isn’t that someone who is, like, 24 years old? Nor someone who has been married, divorced, kids (?), and now live-in GFs.</p>
<p>I think he’s got the same “I’m-too-good-for-you” personality, similar to Roger Clemens. How he got there is sad.</p>
<p>CBS is not stupid. They no doubt had their legal counsel read through the contract with a fine tooth comb, and are being very careful what is said in public. And as an aside, many substance abusers know quite well how to get around a urine screen. Even if his was witnessed and chain of custody was done, there are things they can do to contaminate or sabotage a UDS. There are products like this [url=<a href=“HugeDomains.com”>HugeDomains.com]Clear</a> Choice® Rescue Cleanse™ - 32oz Extra Strength<a href=“and%20note%20the%20additional%20choices%20in%20the%20left%20margin/column”>/url</a>, a product called “whizzinator” that has synthetic urine (the link to the website is too rude to post), “ureasample” (also has inappropriate website for cc link) , etc. There is even a fake male “appendage” shall we say that can be purchased in different skin tones, that can be placed appropriately and attached to someone else’s urine sample, so even an “observed” screen can be attempted to be faked. Hopefully he wouldnt do any of these things, but who knows. He seems to feel he is above all this, an attitude that many celebrities can have.</p>
<p>Love this thread.
Basically celebrities have become part-professional performers/ part reality show participants of their personal lives, and it aint pretty. But we sure do tune in! I have to admit I watch many reality shows and all the Housewives shows exc for Atlanta. Even all those cooking shows are really about personalities!! I know the shows are somewhat scripted and very edited for drama and so forth, but they still capture my attention. (I also love other shows like House- I did not watch a minute of TV for almost 15 years and now I have enough time to check it out- what a little world it has become!)</p>
<p>But I do not enjoy watching shows like 2 and a 1/2 Men that ask us to laugh at one-dimensional humor whose basic credo is misogynism. He may actually be both bi-polar and sociopathically narcissistic, as well as an addict. This is not a political reaction- it is very visceral. I am bored by and unwelcome to that humor. It feels old and stale, and never progresses.</p>
<p>We CAN learn things from all this exposure to the more intimate personal details of people’s lives. Anything from- parenting, personality problems to reasons for a renewal of privacy, etc.</p>
<p>Lol, jym, I think in addition to fleas and ticks, this dog’s got a bad case of scabies.</p>
<p>I’m not mental health specialist, but I think the guy does suffer form a mental illness, and I also wonder how much of this bizzare behavior is “Charlie’s illness acting” vs “Charlie acting”?</p>
@limabeans: oh, no I was referring to my own D. I was trying (not well) to say that because I have an (almost) adult D, I can put myself in Martin Sheen’s shoes, and I feel sorry for him. </p>
<p>re: is he just acting like a jerk? a la Joaquin Phoenix? don’t think so - this looks and sounds too real, sadly.</p>
<p>Oh, I think his behavior right now is not acting- it is all too pitifully real. </p>
<p>CBS made a ton of money off of him “acting” in the show as a gentler version of himself, but as someone rightly pointed out, endorsing the profligate lifestyle which they had to know he was leading. And the world tuned in. Myself included. I loved, loved, loved the brother and the nephew, as well as the housekeeper. The Charlie character was bearable to me because he didn’t take himself too seriously, unlike the real Charlie Sheen. </p>
<p>I feel sorry for him, in the same way I feel badly for Mel Gibson- both great talents in their own rights, with many positive achievements, going through total and complete public meltdowns, exacerbated by addiction, anger, chauvinism, and a slew of other mental health issues that cry out for treatment. </p>
<p>I have sympathy for Martin Sheen and Emilio Estevez(Charlie’s brother) and the whole family. Everyone around him has been hurt.</p>
<p>This is an interesting piece from the NY Times about the Sheen situation. Author describes Sheen’s behavior (especially toward women) and the way CBS has looked the other way to preserve the series. I feel sorry for Denise Richards, mother of his children. Can you imagine having children with someone like this? I hope he deosn’t have unsupervised visitation rights.</p>
Completely true! My armchair diagnosis: Garden variety drug addiction with one or more possible co-occurring disorders. Another lay person here, but lots of related career experience with this topic over the span of decades. About eighty percent of people who suffer from addiction have co-occurring disorders (adhd, anxiety, depression, bipolar, borderline, anti-social, etc. - you get the idea). </p>
<p>The disease of addiction effects a primitive part of the brain, which regulates basic life functions like breathing (sometimes referred to as the “reptilian brain”). You take a breath, you get a squirt of dopamine (Reward! Now take another.). This part of the brain trumps the rest of the brain. If there is something that it wants (more dopamine), and if it has experienced getting that need met previously (cocaine, for example), it can manipulate the rest of the brain (i.e. executive functioning) to access supply. It is as if it rewires the part of the brain responsible for higher level thinking skills. This is how it is possible for a mother to choose a highly addictive drug over taking care of her children. Even the powerful drive of motherhood is no match for this insidious disease. Not every version of addiction is identical to every other. Like cancer, it can manifest in different ways, and in different extremes.</p>
<p>If you look at someone who is using, or who is abstaining but not in recovery (yes that is possible, as recovery involves a lot more work and healing than cessation of using), you can easily map their behavior as path leading them back to supply. Once the victim is in a state of acute stress (due to horrible choices), the stage is set for a full relapse. When you see someone messing up their life when they are not using, it is that primitive brain puppeteering higher level thinking skills in order to get back to supply. It is as if the disease is holding a gun to the victim’s head. Addiction is the only disease that can speak to you in your own voice.</p>
<p>I think it is outrageous that NBC would exploit someone like this. Charlie Sheen is in no shape to give consent to an interview. In the end however, if this raises his bottom, then so be it. Anything to get him back into treatment and secure a chance for a healthy life.</p>
<p>Martin Sheen is 100% correct when he says that his son Charlie deserves all the care and compassion that someone who has cancer deserves.</p>