Just saying. Freshman year my son was placed at West Quad. Less then 8 minutes to classes then a few minutes between them. But good luck at Asu. I have a friend that teaches at Tempe. If she’s more or less committed to going there, let it be. For many kids the buy in to some schools is the hard part. If she’s happy where she is going, let it be and congrats to your daughters decision and future success.
“I was talking with a financial aid person at Michigan saying as an alum it’s disappointing about the OOS cost. She knew that and heard it from a lot of OOS parents. She even said it was cheaper for her in state sister to attend Yale over Michigan because of the aid they give. Wow. But Michigan gets so many people that will pay full cost, why should they change?”
I always find it amusing when instate grads from Michigan who leave the state upon graduation, find it “disappointing” that their children have to pay OOS fees.
ASU Barrett - if she uses all its academic perks and takes a lot of Honors courses - will be the best choice. She’s already found that there are really comfortable dorms there now she needs to explore the academic offerings.
It’s also safer, due to the unstable economic situation. A college that requires borrowing more than 30K total for 4 years is a very risky choice.
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Sounds like you have the layout of ASU’s Tempe Campus worked out. It is a surprisingly easy to navigate campus for what people expect to be a HUGE school. We have a freshman Sun Devil and she reminds me all of the time that it doesn’t take long to get from one building to another. (BTW, she LOVES it there.)
There is a HUGE difference in climate between ASU and Michigan. Our daughter wanted sunshine and warmth, and her college search was all about campuses with palm trees. We looked at one school in Chicago, and she was quick to decide that the cold was NOT for her. Would your California girl have seasonal depression disorder if she headed north? It’s a legitimate question.
For kicks, my kid ruled out the entire South in the hunt for universities. Too humid, too hot, etc. And ruled out ASU solely based on the movie Ted 2. ?
The other important factor was B1G sports for her. Every student and family has their own set of decision factors. The key here is the $200,000.
@rjkofnovi I also find it amusing that someone who has never met me assumes I’m an instate grad. I’m originally from Missouri, and we paid $5,000/year in OOS when I started as a freshman at Michigan in the mid 80’s. It’s now $52,000/year, and likely $54,000 in the fall, for lower division students. That’s an annual increase of 7%.
But knowing you from previous posts about Michigan, and your claim that Michigan can do no wrong, it’s not surprising at all with your snarky rush to judgment.
@TwoHighSchoolers, it’s a very legitimate question. I had a hard time adjusting to Michigan, and I had lived my entire life in Missouri, so I was used to cold. I just wasn’t prepared for the length of the grey.
My daughter applied and was accepted into Michigan and Wisconsin. I cautioned her that as much as I loved my time in Ann Arbor, not seeing the sun for any great length of time until April or May is tough. That coupled with a “cold” campus tour of CU Boulder (only 32 degrees) made her reassess the value of warm weather.
All things being equal with money, it might be a tougher choice for her. But the cost difference is so great, so it won’t in the end be a hard decision.
Seconding @Publisher’s point about polisci. That is a field where the ability to take poorly-stipended internships & terribly paid intro level jobs is essential- and for the ambitious, grad school in the mid-20s ($$$$) is pretty much de rigueur. Graduating w/o debt is a huge gift. A semester in DC? Summer internship on the Hill? Summer internship at the Hague? Working as a Legislative Assistant? all are possible.
For either Law school or an MPP/MPA, after application fees, testing (including prep course), moving to the location of the school, deposits, etc, the rest can go towards the actual (+/- ) $100-200K cost of grad school. Not arriving with undergrad debt will be huge.
Someone is literally handing her $150,000 to go to college. It would be nuts to turn that down. It’s like someone handing over the keys to a brand-new house but turning it down so you can go into debt for a house you can’t really afford. Michigan is a complete setup for failure. For $200,000, they’re offering political science with a chance…just maybe…that she “might” be accepted into the business school later. It’s kind of insulting, when you think about it. I would go for the scholarship at ASU and not look back.
Well we grew up in Michigan and my wife went to University of Michigan. (but I was born in Chicago). Moved back to Chicago for my residency and always planned to come back anyway.
YES… It sucks paying OOS pricing for Michigan…!!! Think we should get like $10.00 off the meal plan or at least a few t-shirts as a thank you ??. Nope and they have the audacity to raise our fees when our kids turn juniors!!
My sons major and 2 minors are all ranked (if it really matters?) in the top 4 programs in the United States . All of them. Hopefully if he doesn’t screw up he will end up with a job next year… Lol…
Saying that, I know many people that would /are currently paying full boat to go to Michigan even with great instate options. Every family has to make that decision if it is worth it. Much easier for some to make that decision when the economy is solid. Much harder to justify to me at this point especially when she has such a great option.