<p>im gonna go ahead and throw out 34.</p>
<p>i have a friend, a junior, that’s looking into yale and brown for his ivy choices. he will probably have a 4.7-4.8 out of 5 weighted gpa, and a very rigorous class schedule to be noted. his ECs aren’t stellar, but he is a highly competitive mathlete and got 2nd in state in the oral competition. he’s also assisting with the schools volleyball program. he doesnt have much work experience or volunteer experience.</p>
<p>i think he’s one of the smartest people ive ever met, but doesn’t have all that “awesome” stuff to put on your application. his ACT is a 34, and i am doubting his chances at yale. brown is still a slight reach for him, in my mind. if he had a 36, i would still say yale is a slight reach and brown is more likely to accept him, but still might not.</p>
<p>my point is that ivies really really want the complete package. for unhooked, middle class, white applicants like you and him, it comes down to being EXTREMELY qualified and slightly lucky. if you have a 34 ACT and a really really complete package behind it, you could get in (and still very well might not). people like you should ignore fauxmom’s advice, as those mid-range ACT scores take into account people that had severe advantages in admissions (wealth, legacy, minority, athlete, etc.). but for people that are average on paper like you, me, and my friend, the bar is raised much higher.</p>