<p>and the jokes after a suitable period of longfacedry:
Bush was always a heartbeat away from the presidency</p>
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Why don’t you do a little research on Kenneth Tomlinson before you libel him, ITM?</p>
<p>Ba-da-bum! :)</p>
<p>TSA, Carla J Martin, member of the bar. Lying to judge, “coaching” of witnesses. #2</p>
<p>Kenneth J Tomlinson: 1(a)
The report:
<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/03/AR2005110302235.html[/url]”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/03/AR2005110302235.html</a></p>
<p>The biography:
<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Tomlinson[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Tomlinson</a></p>
<p>{Wonder if his circle includes the Brownie?}</p>
<h1>3,</h1>
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<p><a href=“http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12596[/url]”>http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12596</a></p>
<h1>4, same article as above. New Person but related.</h1>
<h1>5. David Safavian.</h1>
<p>The nomination:
<a href=“http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1103/110303p1.htm[/url]”>http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1103/110303p1.htm</a></p>
<p>Comfirmation statements:
<a href=“U.S. Senate: 404 Error Page”>U.S. Senate: 404 Error Page;
<p>Arrest:
<a href=“http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Bush_Management_and_Budget_Procurement_chief_arre_0919.html[/url]”>http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Bush_Management_and_Budget_Procurement_chief_arre_0919.html</a></p>
<p>notice how when you start actually showing names of the people in the administration and the republclcans that have done wrong, suddenly, people disappear</p>
<p>Apparently, for some people, if you pay enough money, its okay to shoot someone. How much should the VP donate if he only shoots someone in the leg…</p>
<p>Give up trying to put a positive spin on this out of control administration…contrary to their beliefs, they should not be held above the law.</p>
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Oh, no one disappears. We just have other things to do sometimes. And there’s also the simple strategy of giving folks enough rope to hang themselves with. Please continue with your list of “how many cronies have resigned in disgrace, malfeasance, accused but allowed to resign, or under suspicions in receiving money or favors in this administration.” The takedown will follow, I promise. No wonder you guys can’t win an election.</p>
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ITM, you’ve had over a week to plumb the depths of the fever swamp in support of your claim. I had initially thought that by “you would not want to keep score…” etc. you meant that I would find the result too awful to contemplate. In retrospect, perhaps you meant that I wouldn’t want to waste my time? Let’s look at your list of miscreant cronies:
- Kenneth Tomlinson
- Carla Martin
- Joseph Schmitz
- Joseph Schmitz, again
- David Safavian</p>
<p>1: Tomlinson stood accused by Democrats of using CPB funds to conduct a study of Bill Moyer’s programming, to determine if public money was being used to produce disproportionately left-wing programming. I have no idea why he resigned rather than fight it out–perhaps it was because his term was almost over anyway, and he decided it wasn’t worth it. The problem with Moyers’ bias and conflicts of interest has been well documented here: <a href=“http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=2749&R=778A3497E[/url]”>http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=2749&R=778A3497E</a>
and elsewhere. Whatever your take, it hardly amounts to graft or cronyism.</p>
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<li><p>I especially like this one, since Carla Martin burst into the spotlight nearly a week after ITM’s charge. In any event, it’s hard to see how this low-level civil servant, whose government career began during the Clinton administration, qualifies as a crony of the current administration, whose policy she undermined.</p></li>
<li><p>Joseph Schmitz resigned and joined the private sector after being accused by a whistleblower of “covering up” DOD investigations by referring them to the FBI. Never mind that such referrals are standard procedure for internal government investigations, or that our final miscreant (see below) was arrested by and pursuant to an FBI investigation. It bears looking into, I guess, but I don’t see graft or cronyism.</p></li>
<li><p>I think we have one here–not a crony, but a true miscreant who got involved with Abramoff and took a fancy golf trip while secretly discussing a government land deal with him. The FBI did the investigation, arrested him, and presumably the wheels of justice are grinding on. So much for burying malfeasance by referring it to the FBI. What cronyism is there in that?</p></li>
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<p>is off to school again, maybe his last spring break home: I can spend some time with this thread.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Pertaining to post #1. Old Chinese saying, “If you go fishing, expect to catch some fish, even a shark.”</p></li>
<li><p>Pertaining to post #10. Old medieval saying, “If you pose a challenge, Expect someone to take on the Quest.”</p></li>
<li><p>Ignore the advice in #16, suffer the consequences.</p></li>
<li><p>As for Kenneth Tomilinson, I really had forgotten his name, and really wasn’t interested in pursuing this thread further, until my veracity was attacked. Dear readers, Do Your Own googling, and see if you come to the same conclusions. </p></li>
<li><p>I have several bad habits; I am unable to sleep nights, Leno and Letterman are great comedians. I even laughed at Wild Bill’s perils and now I am “wondering” about Leno’s and Letterman’s jokes on this administration. If L & L were a porten of WJC future, what is the future of GWB’s? I read alot-especially while in line at the grocery line. I also read the WSJ. The people under suspicion are in the popular media; a few minutes googling with the proper key words revealed them to me. The citations took another few minutes to comfirm the initial report. </p></li>
<li><p>As this is a forum, let’s keep it as forum rather than a challenge match. </p></li>
<li><p>When I went to college, the one thing that still is clear, “Don’t trust anyone over 30,” even me.</p></li>
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<p>More power to Cheney. He didn’t have to do anything more than pay his bill, and nothing would have been said. This is no more nor less than the same thing as a person who becomes involved in fundraising, etc., for a cause that became important because of a family member’s illness, etc. Someone’s mother has breast cancer, and the kids run the Race, etc. Cheney can’t get out there an work for the hospital because of his job, so he did the next best thing. And the funds will help the hospital save someone else - perhaps your own family member. Would it be more palatable then? This was a private donation, just as I make to my old college, or to the Katrina victims’ funds, or anything else. If he is in the position to do it, how wonderful! As for Halliburton, there is a situation that the media has not reported - Halliburton is the preferred governmental contractor and has been for many years, even under Clinton and before that. Because of this status, the government MUST go to it first before any other contractor. This is in place and has been for MANY years, so that in case of an emergency, they don’t have to go through the bidding process and can just call on the contractor to get the job done.</p>
<p>Cheney is going to go 'huntin again???</p>
<p>Good joke: I would rather go hunting with Cheney than driving with Kennedy.</p>
<p><a href=“http://chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.mpl/headline/metro/3742329[/url]”>http://chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.mpl/headline/metro/3742329</a></p>
<p>Bush’s mom makes Katrina fund Dondation to sons software company for educationtial software</p>
<p>how swell</p>
<p>with regards to Cheney, he made that money because his company, Haliburton, made a killing during this war, so his “gift” is really our gift</p>