More gems from Rev. Wright

<p>ph- just want to say thanks for your well-thought out responses above. I do think Obama’s candidacy has opened the door for needed conversations about race relations in America. I’m not sure his campaign has really presented any solutions (yet), but I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.</p>

<p>Which brings me to the other point I wanted to make - don’t be so sure that I was “never going to vote for Obama anyway”. I try to give all the candidates equal consideration. I try to be extremely objective. If Obama had impressed me enough, he would’ve gotten my vote.</p>

<p>The reason(s) McCain has my vote right now is because he is the most qualified applicant for the job; he has PLANS for SS, Medicare & Healthcare, he best understands the situation we’re in w/ the WOT, he is a man of honor & integrity, he has demonstrated that he will put what is best for our country ahead of “popularity”, he is not a strict partisan, and with two sons in the military, I know he won’t commit our troops frivolously. </p>

<p>If I were convinced that Obama, Hillary, or any other candidate posessed these qualities, I would vote for him/her.</p>

<p>But again, I appreciate your comments. It is important for everyone on this forum to express why they are supporting certain candidates. This is a good (tho’ somewhat limited) platform for debating - whether it be about the really important issues (presidential candidates, racism, health care, economics, etc) or the other stuff, like which mattress to buy.</p>

<p>The reason I posted Buchanan’s comments was because it presented a view that I have heard from whites before & I thought if Wright’s radical views are being debated, perhaps PB’s should be debated also. (I don’t think it was a speech, but something on his website. Someone sent it to me in an email & I verified that he had written it). BOTH of these attitudes are why we have some of the racial problems which exist in our country. And FWIW, Buchanan endorses Ron Paul. :confused:</p>

<p>Philadelphia Inquirer-4-1-08
Hearing All of Wright’s Sermon</p>

<p>Annette John-Hall: Hearing Wright’s real sermon - not incendiary sound bites</p>

<p>By Annette John-Hall</p>

<p>Inquirer Columnist</p>

<p>For more than fortysomething years, you’ve been just about able to set your watch by where I’ll be sitting at 11 on any given Sunday morning.
No, not in front of the TV watching bodies fly and helmets crunch. You’d better believe I’ve got my behind in a church pew, trying to work out my own salvation.</p>

<p>Like so many other African Americans, I grew up in church. My grandmother’s name is still etched into the cornerstone of St. Paul A.M.E. Church in Berkeley, Calif., as it’s been since 1953.</p>

<p>Unlike other public places, we didn’t have to check our culture at the church’s door for acceptance. Church was a place where we clapped, joyfully shouted “hallelujah,” and reveled in the hope we had as African Americans. It was the same cultural fulfillment I imagine that Jews find in a synagogue, Catholics find in a cathedral, Muslims find in a mosque, and Buddhists find in a temple.</p>

<p>At the same time, the Scripture tapped into our sense of being. I learned that God was on the side of the “least of these” - on my side. That yes, Jesus loves me, even when nobody else does.</p>

<p>Most of all, it was there where I learned how to forgive and to love others.</p>

<p>So I was not one of those suckered into blind judgment of the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., one of the nation’s foremost theologians and Sen. Barack Obama’s former pastor, when I saw the endless clips of seemingly incendiary sound bites from a few of the sermons he gave during his 20 years at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.</p>

<p>With every spool of the now-infamous video splices (source unknown), the pundits became more accusatory with their own vitriol, throwing around words like hate speech, characterizing the pastor as a nut and fanatic, and insisting that Obama should have walked away.</p>

<p>Even now, they continually talk about “the Jeremiah Wright problem” as if it’s some incurable disease about to overtake the nation.</p>

<p>It didn’t take a prophet to realize that what we were hearing certainly wasn’t the measure of this man.</p>

<p>Nor a true reflection of the black church, especially from people who’d never been in one.</p>

<p>Suddenly, if you believed those pundits screeching from their bully pulpits, every black church was preaching hate, was full of conspirators, was unpatriotic. The black church was the devil in disguise.</p>

<p>No viewer would have a clue that my church, like most black churches, was not just a house of worship but also served as a credit union, cultural center, therapist’s couch, day-care center, food pantry and so much more.</p>

<p>On Sunday, I chose to worship at Macedonia A.M.E. Church in Camden.</p>

<p>As part of the service, Macedonia’s pastor, the Rev. Mark Kelly Tyler, had promised to play one of Wright’s sermons in its entirety so that we, the congregation, could decide. Tyler has always been an admirer of Wright, known worldwide as one of the best orators and respected theologians, and whose father was pastor of Grace Baptist Church of Germantown for 32 years.</p>

<p>“As a student of preaching, I try to find people who not only have something significant to say nationwide, but in the world,” said Tyler. "I know he’s not a preacher of hate.</p>

<p>“Theology has called us to be prophetic and not popular. Even the biblical prophet Jeremiah was called unpatriotic.”</p>

<p>When Obama delivered his historic speech on race a few weeks ago, the symbolism for Tyler was not that it was made at the Constitution Center or across the street from Independence Hall. It was that he was speaking a few blocks from St. George’s Methodist Church, where black parishioners in 1787 were pulled off their knees and told to go pray in the balcony by white church officials. It’s what called Richard Allen and Absalom Jones to create the African Methodist Episcopal Church in 1816.</p>

<p>“To me, as a person of the A.M.E. Church, it was that Barack was speaking at Ground Zero of race relations in the church,” said Tyler.</p>

<p>Which is why the motto of Wright’s Trinity Church - “unapologetically Christian, unashamedly black” - is more about pride than race.</p>

<p>Mayor Nutter and so many others say they would have walked away. I understand why Obama didn’t.</p>

<p>What we heard listening to Wright’s full sermon, the one that followed the 911 attacks, was very different from the distorted video of the pastor’s ranting about “the chickens are coming home to roost.”</p>

<p>Sure, he blasted the country for misusing its super power at times and for being arrogant enough to think that we would never be attacked. But the real question he asked in his sermon was how “we” as a country would respond.</p>

<p>This was a time, he said, to examine ourselves and our own relationship with God. A time for social transformation for our country, and a time to give thanks for all that we have as citizens of this country and as people of God.</p>

<p>He always used “we” as Americans, never “them” or “us.”</p>

<p>And he ended his sermon in a way that we never would have known from the distorted video.</p>

<p>He reminded us to love one another, to take time to give thanks, to thank God for the lives of the lost in the attack and for the ways in which those who died touched us.</p>

<p>And then he asked members of the congregation: When was the last time they told their family they loved them?</p>

<p>"Turn to your neighbor and say, ‘I love you.’ ‘’</p>

<p>And hearing his urging on audio in the church, that’s what we did.</p>

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<p>Incendiary comments, taken out of context, are almost always the more incendiary. And when they are used to define the totality of an individual, they most certainly leave no room for question or debate. Interesting, isn’t it, that none of the major news organizations have seen fit to try and present a more complete picture of either, Jeremiah Wright himself, or the Trinity Church of Christ. Doing so would certainly have reduced the effectiveness of the weapon they’d so carefully honed in the interest of political sabotage.</p>

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<p>All the reasons you listed above are precisely the same reasons why, as an independent voter, John McCain has my utmost respect (utmost, for a politician, that is;)), and why, as I’ve now stated numerous times, I will seriously consider voting for him come November.</p>

<p>The reason why I’m so invested in these discussions about Obama and his pastor is because I perceive that the outrage expressed by so many over this issue, is born of preconceptions and lack of understanding over something that has never once been presented within full context. What I perceive is that, underlying this entire controversy, is a very malevolent political agenda; one that skillfully plays upon the fears/guilt/dread/resentments of much of the voting populace, and in the full knowledge of what would ensue. There is, of course, no advantage in attempting to present the issue fully, with any sort of social honesty or intellectual integrity. That would thwart the ultimate goal, which is the presenting Barack Obama as an "Us"vs. “Them” candidate in the vein of a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.</p>