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He knows better, and I’m certain that you do too. 
----though I did give him my permission to leave the house and go and do it himself. <em>lol</em> :D</p>
<p>sorry, i’d rather a husband blast Bambi than Bullwinkle.</p>
<p>"My hubster has given up on that also, but he did just bring back a HUMONGO moose from Vermont… "</p>
<p>Can they survive in Kansas? ;)</p>
<p>Boys, boys, blast away. But since I myself do not hunt, perhaps you should pm me your objections, and I’ll pass them on to my hubster—as soon as he gets back from fishin’…</p>
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Your opinion has been duly noted, though I’m sure that “Bambi” would not side with you.</p>
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Yes. Through the wonders of modern refrigeration.</p>
<p>I actually consider hunting infinitely less violent than the political discussions on this forum. </p>
<p>Stay the course.</p>
<p>Vinny Gambini (about to go hunting):
What about these pants I got on? You think they’re okay?</p>
<p>Mona Lisa Vito:
*Imagine you’re a deer…
You’re prancing along…
You get thirsty…
You spot a little brook…
You put your little deer lips down to the cool, clear water… </p>
<p>BAM!
A ****in’ bullet rips off part of your head. Your brains are lying on the ground in little bloody pieces… </p>
<p>Now I ask ya, would you give a **** what kind of pants the son-of-a-***** who shot you was wearing? *</p>
<p>Well, almost digmedia. 
Great poem, though.</p>
<p>First, they never hear the shot since the bullet moves faster than sound (assuming a modern smokeless powder rifle). Second, a head shot is extremely hard to make, so if taking home game is your goal and you spent hundreds of $$ on fees and expenses, your shots are much more of the high percentage chance of hit kind. Accurate shots in real time are not a easy as you might think or see on TV or in the movies. Third, generally it’s unlawful to shoot them in water, so it’d be a close call on that one. (frankly, wise hunters skip the questionable or hazardous shots, it is a sport after all). Fourth, hunters seldom shoot game in the head, as the antlers - on a buck during the rut - are frequently prized for mounting.</p>
<p>Yeah P2N. Also, I have always wondered why we say blast Bambi when its really [Bambis</a> dad](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIylw1vPhxA]Bambis”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIylw1vPhxA) we are after (or… who is perhaps after us).</p>
<p>The above discussion triggered my thoughts of that bit of dialog from My Cousin Vinnie, the only movie I know of where the F-word actually is funny.</p>
<p>But now onto my soapbox. I am a vegetarian and the reason is more for animal rights than any other. I think that killing animals is not for me, but I do not condemn hunters at all. If you look at how animals are raised and killed for human consumption, hunting and fishing are actually the “most humane” in that wild animals live pretty much in the way nature intended: in the wild. They are not caged, drugged, and sent to slaughter in crowds and in unusual, (to them) scary conditions. </p>
<p>How many of the people here decry hunting, but then sit down to a steak or fried chicken? Everyone knows the cruelty of raising calves for veal - the way they are constrainted so they cannot move and thus toughen the meat. Yet Veal Marsala sure tastes great, so let’s not think about that.</p>
<p>How many here have toured a chicken “factory” to see how they are raised in crowded cages and how they are killed, upside down with slit necks to let the blood drain so that it does not darken the meat?</p>
<p>If you think about it, hunting is really kind of the “best” way of getting meat to eat. Man is just another predator in the chain, although with superior technology, to be sure. </p>
<p>So when you are buying your next package of hamburger or going to KFC to pick up dinner, best not to think of the animal parts you are really getting and how those parts came to be in that package.</p>
<p>Ooops - I’m getting too holier-than-thou here, so I apologize. Now let’s get back to motorhomes:</p>
<p>Here is my idea for retirement: to buy something like a conversion Eurovan - something really small, and outfit that to travel around. It’s a vehicle I can use everyday, but still have kindof an RV-type vehicle for road trips. Any ideas on that?</p>
<p>Thanks for the suggestion, dig. Believe it or not, I actually am not much of a meat eater either. When I do get lucky enough to take a deer, most of the meat goes to neighbors and friends who eat a lot more than we do.</p>
<p>Dross - there is frequently a huge overpopulation of deer in the US. There are actually more deer now than 100 years ago, for example. Does are now in season much more often as too many deer frequently starve to death when the food supply is exceeded. Hunting license fees pay a great deal of the cost of game management in many states. Plus, all game taken (where I hunt anyways) must be checked by a state biologist, so those folks have a very good idea as to the state of the herd.</p>
<p>As to RVs - we were kind of looking at the new small Winnebago with the Mercedes diesel engine that reportedly gets about 17mpg or so. But we’re not close yet, so we’ll continue to look at all options. These things are very costly, so used vehicles are an alternative, too. jym’s neighbor supposedly had one, but it was too used and he was too snarky to deal with (lol).</p>
<p>Returning to the original thread topic: Over the years I’ve done everything from snow caves to tents to pickups with campers to trailers to two rentals in 28-foot motorhomes. I also spend a lot of time in hotel rooms on business. Some random observations:</p>
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<li><p>If you are only going to use it 2-3 weeks a year, rent, don’t buy. These things suck up a lot of capital, depreciate steadily, and can cost almost as much to store as they cost to buy. For a low-to-moderate user renting is a better solution, and if the transmission dies in Elko, Nevada, it’s not yours to fix.</p></li>
<li><p>Towing a car behind an RV isn’t a big deal. My father used to have one of us kids look out the rear window to see if it was still there, since he couldn’t see it in the mirrors on a straight road and it didn’t drag enough to feel.</p></li>
<li><p>A rental car and a suburban hotel might be more convenient than finding an RV park near the college.</p></li>
<li><p>If you want to take some time after retirement and “discover” yourselves, you might try what my dad did. He chose to not do the RV thing (“I’m tired of dragging my shell around like a d***ed turtle”) and came up with plan B. They loaded up their car with clothes, maps, and two “kitchen boxes” and hit the road. When the wanted to test an area for “retireability” they would rent a furnished apartment for a month, move in, and then drive all around the area. Sometimes, they left before the month was up, but he said it was still cheaper than living in a hotel or buying the RV, and that you could more conveniently cover a 200-mile circle this way than moving an RV all the time. After a little less than a year of modern gypsy lifestyle they settled in rural coastal Oregon where they appear to be living happily ever after.</p></li>
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<p>Rick - thanks! Great information. :)</p>
<p>Dross - wanted to mention that yes, bucks can be real dangerous during the rut. Sometimes people get killed by them…other than by just having one come through your car windshield. Frequently, they are some 150-200 lbs of aggressive wild animal. If that’s not big enough, try dragging one out of the woods by yourself sometime, up and down hills and through creeks…they are plenty big. I’ve seen some in NY (state) that look like cows for crying out loud… :rolleyes:</p>
<p>My husband would love one. My problem with them is I still have the mentality that motor homes are for old people. Haven’t yet gotten to the point of reality that now I am one of those old people.
Years of camping and being on those two lane roads stuck behind one of them inching up the hill spilling out stinking diesel fumes. I swore I would never have one. But I just admit some of them are great looking.</p>
<p>I know what you mean… I never thought I’d consider it, either.</p>
<p>mom60!!!</p>
<p><strong><em>ROFLMAO</em></strong> I could have written your post!! 
:D</p>
<p>It’s like Cadillac - they play Led Zeppelin now to sell old people cars.</p>
<p>For B - !!! :)</p>
<p>It’d never work with me p2n…despite my Texan roots, I am not a campin’ gal. In fact, I have <em>never</em> been camping, 'cept in a fully furnished cabin! The idea of <strong>8</strong> in one of those motorhomes just gives me hives… :eek:</p>
<p>Well, your version, b, would be 95’ long…with six bedrooms, three baths - a separate master suite and hot tub. Plus, live-in maid and nanny.</p>
<p>Oops - plus Cook.</p>