@tribe216 Split the list into two posts putting “1 of 2” and “con’d below” on the bottom of first post and “2 of 2” and “con’d above” on the top of second post?
I’ve notice that no one is talking about UCF and it’s not on the list above. Has anyone on here been accepted?
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Post 1 of 2
AMDA
kyderbymom, D, KY
MTisNutz, D, TX (LA BFA)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Arcadia
Arizona State
MTisNutz, D, TX (WL)
Auburn
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Austin Peay State University
kyderbymom, D, KY
MTisNutz, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
MissyNNT, D, TX
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Baldwin Wallace (BM MT)
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
Ball State
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT (WL)
MTisNutz, D, TX (WL)
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting, BFA MT WL)
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY ( WL)
Onette, M, TX (Re-Dir: BFA Acting)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA MT, WL)
HAHCx4,D (BFA MT, pWL)
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
Baylor (BFA Theatre Performance - MT Concentration)
Onette, M, TX
Belmont (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
ChengGang, S, TN
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
MissyNNT, D, TX (RD-> BFA MPerf)
PeterPan8th, S, TN
BOCO
MAMABOYZ, S, NJ
MTActing, D
MTSthistime, S
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL)
TheatreDad69, S, CA
Cal State Long Beach
MommaCat, D, CA (BFA, Acting)
MTMamoo, D, CA, Major TBD
Cal State Northridge
MommaCat, D, CA (BA, MT)
MTMamoo, D, CA, Major TBD
Carnegie Mellon University
Jasklo, D, MT,
Cap21/Molloy
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
Libish, D, OH
MissyNNT, D, TX
MTMamoo, D, CA (WL)
NeensMom, D, AZ (WL)
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX (WL)
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
HAHCx4,D
CATHOLIC (BM MT)
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
Cincinnati College Conservatory of Music, CCM
7Heartsong3, S, VA
ChengGang, S, TN
MTDad27, D, GA
TheatreDad69, S, CA (WL)
Circle In The Square/Eckerd
MamaBear2020, D, FL
Rocketwoman37, D, VT
Coastal Carolina
CASAmom, D, PA (BFA Physical Theatre)
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
Cornish College of the Arts
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ (BFA Theater, concentration MT)
Elon
ChengGang, S, TN
Emerson College
7Heartsong3, S, VA (BFA Acting)
FlippedOut, D, CA
PeterPan8th, S, TN
SavsMom, D, TX, (MT WL)
tribe216, D, OH (MT WL)
Florida State University
ChengGang, S, TN (BM MT)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
George Mason
MTdancer2024, D, VA
Hartt
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
MTSthistime, S
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA ACTING)
Indiana University Bloomington
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
PeterPan8th, S, TN (WL)
Illinois Wesleyan
SavsMom, D, TX
Ithaca College
ChengGang, S, TN
MTDad27, D, GA
MTSthistime, S
JMU
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
MTdancer2024, D, VA (WL)
closemama, D, TX (BA Theatre)
LIU Post (BFA Theatre ARTS MT)
DramaLove2020, F, VA
Hispassion, M, TX
kyderbymom, D, KY
Libish, D, OH
Looney2020, D, CA
MTDad27, D, GA
MTisNutz, D, TX
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
NeensMom, D, AZ
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Loyola New Orleans (BA MT)
chipmunkmom, D, LA
Mtrose2024, D, CA
Lynn University
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ
MamaBear2020, D, FL
MTdancer2024, D, VA (BFA Acting)
Manhattan School of Music (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
Marymount Manhattan
7Heartsong3, S, VA (WL)
BrennaK, S, OH
closemama, D, TX
FingersXd20, S, NJ
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
NeensMom, D, AZ (WL)
SavsMom, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH
HAHCx4,D
Millikin
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
Libish, D, OH
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX
FlippedOut, D, CA(re-direct BFA Acting)
Missouri State
RMT549, D, TX
Montclair State
TheatreDad69, S, CA
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting)
MTSthistime, S
Muhlenberg
MTisNutz, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH
Murray State
kyderbymom, D, KY,
Nebraska Wesleyan
Depejohnson, S, NE
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
MamaBear2020, D, FL
Post 2 of 2
North Central College (BA MT)
dramamama3, D, NY
North Dakota State
crazytheatregoer, OH
Northern Illinois
ABigCurveBall, D, IL (Acting)
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Northern Kentucky University
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT
kyderbymom, D, KY
Libish, D, OH
Northwestern University
SavsMom, D, TX
NYU Steinhardt
Libish, D, OH
NYU Tisch
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
Tsamuique, S, VT
Ohio Northern
closemama, D, TX
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MTDad27, D, GA
onceuponadancer, D, NC
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX
Ohio U
BrennaK, S, OH
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Depejohnson, S, NE
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MamaBear2020, D, FL (BFA Acting)
MTMamoo, D, CA (WL)
RMT549, D, TX (WL)
shmyers, D, NC
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Oklahoma City University (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D (BFA Acting)
Otterbein University
BrennaK, S, OH
MTSthistime, S
TheaterDad69, S, CA
Pace University
Jasklo, D, MT
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting-FTVC)
Pepperdine
Onette, M, TX (BFA Acting)
Point Park
7Heartsong3, S, VA
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (Redirect to BFA-Theatre Arts)
Libish, D, OH
Rider
Dramamomma918 D, NC
MTDad27, D, GA
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
Rockford
LadyMjolnir, S, WA
NeensMom, D, AZ
Roosevelt CCPA
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN
ABigCurveBall, D, IL
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Mtrose2024, D, CA
shmyers, D, NC
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Samford
kyderbymom, D, KY
MissyNNT, D, TX
Savannah College of Arts & Design (SCAD)
MTMamoo, D, CA, (BFA PA)
Shenandoah
MTDad27, D, GA
Southeast Missouri State
chipmunkmom, D, LA
Depejohnson, S, NE
Libish, D, OH
Southern Illinois University
kyderbymom, D, KY
Stephen’s College
kyderbymom, D, KY
SUNY Fredonia
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ (BFA Acting)
Syracuse
dramamama3, D, NY (BFA ActingED)
Temple
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MissyNNT, D, TX (Redirect BFA Acting/Film)
Onette, M, TX
PeterPan8th, S, TN
Texas Christian University (TCU)
Onette, M, TX (redirect to BFA Acting)
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Texas State University
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
Texas Tech University
RMT549, D, TX
U Alabama - Tuscaloosa
Onette, M, TX, (BFA Acting) (WL MT)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL MT)
University of Arizona - Tucson
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
Onette, F, TX (WL)
PeterPan8th, S, TN (WL)
RVCVRN1, S, CA
RMT549, D, TX
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
U of the Arts - Philadelphia
closemama, D, TX
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
NeensMom, D, AZ
onceuponadancer, D, NC
TheatreDad69, S, CA
tribe216, D, OH
HAHCx4,D
UCLA
FlippedOut, D, CA
U Central OK
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX (BM MT)
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (BMA Lyric Theatre)
MTdancer2024, D, VA
U of Kentucky
kyderbymom, D, KY
University of Miami
MTdancer2024, D, VA (WL)
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
U of Northern Colorado
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN (BA MT)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL MT)
UNC Greensboro
GeddyMcNulty
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
U of Southern California
tribe216, D, OH (BA Drama)
U Tampa
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MamaBear2020, D, FL
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
U Texas Arlington
Onette, M, TX
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
U Wisconsin - Stevens Point
Onette, M, TX (BFA MT)
Onette, M, TX (BFA Acting)
Libish, D, OH (BFA MT)
HAHCx4,D (BFA MT)
closemama, D, TX (BFA MT WL)
U Wyoming
LadyMjolnir, S, WA
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Utah
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
RVCVRN1, S, CA
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
HAHCx4,D
Viterbo
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
FlippedOut, D, CA
Libish, D, OH
Looney2020, D, CA
MT549, D, TX
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
VBMomof4, D, FL
Wagner
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
Western Connecticut St
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
West Texas A&M University
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
West Virginia University
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
Western Kentucky University
kyderbymom, D, KY
Western Michigan
Onette, M, TX
Wright St
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
MTDad27, D, GA
RMT549, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH (BFA Acting)
DancerMTMom, D, OH (BFA Dance, WL Acting)
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA MT, WL)
Xavier University (BA MT)
MTdancer2024
@tribe216 Congrats! Great list.
Just remove @TheatreDad69 from the list. That should free up half of the space 
@TexasMTDad LOL!!
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Post 1 of 2
AMDA
kyderbymom, D, KY
MTisNutz, D, TX (LA BFA)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Arcadia
Arizona State
MTisNutz, D, TX (WL)
Auburn
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Austin Peay State University
kyderbymom, D, KY
MTisNutz, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
MissyNNT, D, TX
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Baldwin Wallace (BM MT)
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
Ball State
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT (WL)
MTisNutz, D, TX (WL)
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting, BFA MT WL)
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY ( WL)
Onette, M, TX (Re-Dir: BFA Acting)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA MT, WL)
HAHCx4,D (BFA MT, pWL)
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
Baylor (BFA Theatre Performance - MT Concentration)
Onette, M, TX
Belmont (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
ChengGang, S, TN
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
MissyNNT, D, TX (RD-> BFA MPerf)
PeterPan8th, S, TN
BOCO
MAMABOYZ, S, NJ
MTActing, D
MTSthistime, S
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL)
TheatreDad69, S, CA
Cal State Long Beach
MommaCat, D, CA (BFA, Acting)
MTMamoo, D, CA, Major TBD
Cal State Northridge
MommaCat, D, CA (BA, MT)
MTMamoo, D, CA, Major TBD
Carnegie Mellon University
Jasklo, D, MT,
Cap21/Molloy
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
Libish, D, OH
MissyNNT, D, TX
MTMamoo, D, CA (WL)
NeensMom, D, AZ (WL)
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX (WL)
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
HAHCx4,D
CATHOLIC (BM MT)
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
Cincinnati College Conservatory of Music, CCM
7Heartsong3, S, VA
ChengGang, S, TN
MTDad27, D, GA
TheatreDad69, S, CA (WL)
Circle In The Square/Eckerd
MamaBear2020, D, FL
Rocketwoman37, D, VT
Coastal Carolina
CASAmom, D, PA (BFA Physical Theatre)
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
Cornish College of the Arts
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ (BFA Theater, concentration MT)
Elon
ChengGang, S, TN
Emerson College
7Heartsong3, S, VA (BFA Acting)
FlippedOut, D, CA
PeterPan8th, S, TN
SavsMom, D, TX, (MT WL)
tribe216, D, OH (MT WL)
Florida State University
ChengGang, S, TN (BM MT)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
George Mason
MTdancer2024, D, VA
Hartt
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
MTSthistime, S
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA ACTING)
Indiana University Bloomington
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
PeterPan8th, S, TN (WL)
Illinois Wesleyan
SavsMom, D, TX
Ithaca College
ChengGang, S, TN
MTDad27, D, GA
MTSthistime, S
JMU
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
MTdancer2024, D, VA (WL)
closemama, D, TX (BA Theatre)
LIU Post (BFA Theatre ARTS MT)
DramaLove2020, F, VA
Hispassion, M, TX
kyderbymom, D, KY
Libish, D, OH
Looney2020, D, CA
MTDad27, D, GA
MTisNutz, D, TX
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
NeensMom, D, AZ
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Loyola New Orleans (BA MT)
chipmunkmom, D, LA
Mtrose2024, D, CA
Lynn University
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ
MamaBear2020, D, FL
MTdancer2024, D, VA (BFA Acting)
Manhattan School of Music (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
Marymount Manhattan
7Heartsong3, S, VA (WL)
BrennaK, S, OH
closemama, D, TX
FingersXd20, S, NJ
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
NeensMom, D, AZ (WL)
SavsMom, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH
HAHCx4,D
Millikin
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
Libish, D, OH
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX
FlippedOut, D, CA(re-direct BFA Acting)
Missouri State
RMT549, D, TX
Montclair State
TheatreDad69, S, CA
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting)
MTSthistime, S
Muhlenberg
MTisNutz, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH
Murray State
kyderbymom, D, KY,
Nebraska Wesleyan
Depejohnson, S, NE
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
MamaBear2020, D, FL
Post 2 of 2
North Central College (BA MT)
dramamama3, D, NY
North Dakota State
crazytheatregoer, OH
Northern Illinois
ABigCurveBall, D, IL (Acting)
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Northern Kentucky University
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT
kyderbymom, D, KY
Libish, D, OH
Northwestern University
SavsMom, D, TX
NYU Steinhardt
Libish, D, OH
NYU Tisch
MTSthistime, S (WL)
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
Tsamuique, S, VT
Ohio Northern
closemama, D, TX
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MTDad27, D, GA
onceuponadancer, D, NC
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX
Ohio U
BrennaK, S, OH
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Depejohnson, S, NE
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MamaBear2020, D, FL (BFA Acting)
MTMamoo, D, CA (WL)
RMT549, D, TX (WL)
shmyers, D, NC
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Oklahoma City University (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D (BFA Acting)
Otterbein University
BrennaK, S, OH
MTSthistime, S
TheaterDad69, S, CA
Pace University
Jasklo, D, MT
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting-FTVC)
Pepperdine
Onette, M, TX (BFA Acting)
Point Park
7Heartsong3, S, VA
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting)
MTSthistime, S (W/L)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (Redirect to BFA-Theatre Arts)
Libish, D, OH
Rider
Dramamomma918 D, NC
MTDad27, D, GA
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
Rockford
LadyMjolnir, S, WA
NeensMom, D, AZ
Roosevelt CCPA
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN
ABigCurveBall, D, IL
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Mtrose2024, D, CA
shmyers, D, NC
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Samford
kyderbymom, D, KY
MissyNNT, D, TX
Savannah College of Arts & Design (SCAD)
MTMamoo, D, CA, (BFA PA)
Shenandoah
MTDad27, D, GA
Southeast Missouri State
chipmunkmom, D, LA
Depejohnson, S, NE
Libish, D, OH
Southern Illinois University
kyderbymom, D, KY
Stephen’s College
kyderbymom, D, KY
SUNY Fredonia
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ (BFA Acting)
Syracuse
dramamama3, D, NY (BFA ActingED)
MTSthistime, S
Temple
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MissyNNT, D, TX (Redirect BFA Acting/Film)
Onette, M, TX
PeterPan8th, S, TN
Texas Christian University (TCU)
Onette, M, TX (redirect to BFA Acting)
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Texas State University
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
Texas Tech University
RMT549, D, TX
U Alabama - Tuscaloosa
Onette, M, TX, (BFA Acting) (WL MT)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL MT)
University of Arizona - Tucson
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
Onette, F, TX (WL)
PeterPan8th, S, TN (WL)
RVCVRN1, S, CA
RMT549, D, TX
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
U of the Arts - Philadelphia
closemama, D, TX
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
NeensMom, D, AZ
onceuponadancer, D, NC
TheatreDad69, S, CA
tribe216, D, OH
HAHCx4,D
UCLA
FlippedOut, D, CA
U Central OK
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX (BM MT)
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (BMA Lyric Theatre)
MTdancer2024, D, VA
U of Kentucky
kyderbymom, D, KY
University of Miami
MTdancer2024, D, VA (WL)
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
U of Northern Colorado
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN (BA MT)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL MT)
UNC Greensboro
GeddyMcNulty
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
U of Southern California
tribe216, D, OH (BA Drama)
U Tampa
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MamaBear2020, D, FL
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
U Texas Arlington
Onette, M, TX
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
U Wisconsin - Stevens Point
Onette, M, TX (BFA MT)
Onette, M, TX (BFA Acting)
Libish, D, OH (BFA MT)
HAHCx4,D (BFA MT)
closemama, D, TX (BFA MT WL)
U Wyoming
LadyMjolnir, S, WA
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Utah
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
RVCVRN1, S, CA
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
HAHCx4,D
Viterbo
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
FlippedOut, D, CA
Libish, D, OH
Looney2020, D, CA
MT549, D, TX
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
VBMomof4, D, FL
Wagner
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
Western Connecticut St
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
West Texas A&M University
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
West Virginia University
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
Western Kentucky University
kyderbymom, D, KY
Western Michigan
Onette, M, TX
Wright St
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
MTDad27, D, GA
RMT549, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH (BFA Acting)
DancerMTMom, D, OH (BFA Dance, WL Acting)
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA MT, WL)
Xavier University (BA MT)
MTdancer2024
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Post 1 of 2
AMDA
kyderbymom, D, KY
MTisNutz, D, TX (LA BFA)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Arcadia
Arizona State
MTisNutz, D, TX (WL)
Auburn
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Austin Peay State University
kyderbymom, D, KY
MTisNutz, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
MissyNNT, D, TX
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Baldwin Wallace (BM MT)
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
Ball State
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT (WL)
MTisNutz, D, TX (WL)
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting, BFA MT WL)
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY ( WL)
Onette, M, TX (Re-Dir: BFA Acting)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA MT, WL)
HAHCx4,D (BFA MT, pWL)
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
Baylor (BFA Theatre Performance - MT Concentration)
Onette, M, TX
Belmont (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
ChengGang, S, TN
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
MissyNNT, D, TX (RD-> BFA MPerf)
PeterPan8th, S, TN
BOCO
MAMABOYZ, S, NJ
MTActing, D
MTSthistime, S
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL)
TheatreDad69, S, CA
7Heartsong3, S, VA
Cal State Long Beach
MommaCat, D, CA (BFA, Acting)
MTMamoo, D, CA, Major TBD
Cal State Northridge
MommaCat, D, CA (BA, MT)
MTMamoo, D, CA, Major TBD
Carnegie Mellon University
Jasklo, D, MT,
Cap21/Molloy
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
Libish, D, OH
MissyNNT, D, TX
MTMamoo, D, CA (WL)
NeensMom, D, AZ (WL)
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX (WL)
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
HAHCx4,D
CATHOLIC (BM MT)
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
Cincinnati College Conservatory of Music, CCM
7Heartsong3, S, VA
ChengGang, S, TN
MTDad27, D, GA
TheatreDad69, S, CA (WL)
Circle In The Square/Eckerd
MamaBear2020, D, FL
Rocketwoman37, D, VT
Coastal Carolina
CASAmom, D, PA (BFA Physical Theatre)
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
Cornish College of the Arts
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ (BFA Theater, concentration MT)
Elon
ChengGang, S, TN
Emerson College
7Heartsong3, S, VA (BFA Acting)
FlippedOut, D, CA
PeterPan8th, S, TN
SavsMom, D, TX, (MT WL)
tribe216, D, OH (MT WL)
Florida State University
ChengGang, S, TN (BM MT)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
George Mason
MTdancer2024, D, VA
Hartt
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
MTSthistime, S
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA ACTING)
Indiana University Bloomington
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
PeterPan8th, S, TN (WL)
Illinois Wesleyan
SavsMom, D, TX
Ithaca College
ChengGang, S, TN
MTDad27, D, GA
MTSthistime, S
JMU
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
MTdancer2024, D, VA (WL)
closemama, D, TX (BA Theatre)
LIU Post (BFA Theatre ARTS MT)
DramaLove2020, F, VA
Hispassion, M, TX
kyderbymom, D, KY
Libish, D, OH
Looney2020, D, CA
MTDad27, D, GA
MTisNutz, D, TX
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
NeensMom, D, AZ
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Loyola New Orleans (BA MT)
chipmunkmom, D, LA
Mtrose2024, D, CA
Lynn University
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ
MamaBear2020, D, FL
MTdancer2024, D, VA (BFA Acting)
Manhattan School of Music (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
Marymount Manhattan
7Heartsong3, S, VA (WL)
BrennaK, S, OH
closemama, D, TX
FingersXd20, S, NJ
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
NeensMom, D, AZ (WL)
SavsMom, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH
HAHCx4,D
Millikin
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
Libish, D, OH
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX
FlippedOut, D, CA(re-direct BFA Acting)
Missouri State
RMT549, D, TX
Montclair State
TheatreDad69, S, CA
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting)
MTSthistime, S
Muhlenberg
MTisNutz, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH
Murray State
kyderbymom, D, KY,
Nebraska Wesleyan
Depejohnson, S, NE
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
MamaBear2020, D, FL
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North Central College (BA MT)
dramamama3, D, NY
North Dakota State
crazytheatregoer, OH
Northern Illinois
ABigCurveBall, D, IL (Acting)
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Northern Kentucky University
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT
kyderbymom, D, KY
Libish, D, OH
Northwestern University
SavsMom, D, TX
NYU Steinhardt
Libish, D, OH
NYU Tisch
MTSthistime, S (WL)
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
Tsamuique, S, VT
7Heartsong3, S, VA
Ohio Northern
closemama, D, TX
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MTDad27, D, GA
onceuponadancer, D, NC
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX
Ohio U
BrennaK, S, OH
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Depejohnson, S, NE
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MamaBear2020, D, FL (BFA Acting)
MTMamoo, D, CA (WL)
RMT549, D, TX (WL)
shmyers, D, NC
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Oklahoma City University (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D (BFA Acting)
Otterbein University
BrennaK, S, OH
MTSthistime, S
TheaterDad69, S, CA
Pace University
Jasklo, D, MT
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting-FTVC)
Pepperdine
Onette, M, TX (BFA Acting)
Point Park
7Heartsong3, S, VA
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting)
MTSthistime, S (W/L)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (Redirect to BFA-Theatre Arts)
Libish, D, OH
Rider
Dramamomma918 D, NC
MTDad27, D, GA
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
Rockford
LadyMjolnir, S, WA
NeensMom, D, AZ
Roosevelt CCPA
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN
ABigCurveBall, D, IL
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Mtrose2024, D, CA
shmyers, D, NC
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Samford
kyderbymom, D, KY
MissyNNT, D, TX
Savannah College of Arts & Design (SCAD)
MTMamoo, D, CA, (BFA PA)
Shenandoah
MTDad27, D, GA
Southeast Missouri State
chipmunkmom, D, LA
Depejohnson, S, NE
Libish, D, OH
Southern Illinois University
kyderbymom, D, KY
Stephen’s College
kyderbymom, D, KY
SUNY Fredonia
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ (BFA Acting)
Syracuse
dramamama3, D, NY (BFA ActingED)
MTSthistime, S
Temple
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MissyNNT, D, TX (Redirect BFA Acting/Film)
Onette, M, TX
PeterPan8th, S, TN
Texas Christian University (TCU)
Onette, M, TX (redirect to BFA Acting)
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Texas State University
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
Texas Tech University
RMT549, D, TX
U Alabama - Tuscaloosa
Onette, M, TX, (BFA Acting) (WL MT)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL MT)
University of Arizona - Tucson
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
Onette, F, TX (WL)
PeterPan8th, S, TN (WL)
RVCVRN1, S, CA
RMT549, D, TX
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
U of the Arts - Philadelphia
closemama, D, TX
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
NeensMom, D, AZ
onceuponadancer, D, NC
TheatreDad69, S, CA
tribe216, D, OH
HAHCx4,D
UCLA
FlippedOut, D, CA
U Central OK
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX (BM MT)
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (BMA Lyric Theatre)
MTdancer2024, D, VA
U of Kentucky
kyderbymom, D, KY
University of Miami
MTdancer2024, D, VA (WL)
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
U of Northern Colorado
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN (BA MT)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL MT)
UNC Greensboro
GeddyMcNulty
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
U of Southern California
tribe216, D, OH (BA Drama)
U Tampa
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MamaBear2020, D, FL
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
U Texas Arlington
Onette, M, TX
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
U Wisconsin - Stevens Point
Onette, M, TX (BFA MT)
Onette, M, TX (BFA Acting)
Libish, D, OH (BFA MT)
HAHCx4,D (BFA MT)
closemama, D, TX (BFA MT WL)
U Wyoming
LadyMjolnir, S, WA
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Utah
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
RVCVRN1, S, CA
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
HAHCx4,D
Viterbo
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
FlippedOut, D, CA
Libish, D, OH
Looney2020, D, CA
MT549, D, TX
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
VBMomof4, D, FL
Wagner
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
Western Connecticut St
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
West Texas A&M University
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
West Virginia University
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
Western Kentucky University
kyderbymom, D, KY
Western Michigan
Onette, M, TX
Wright St
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
MTDad27, D, GA
RMT549, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH (BFA Acting)
DancerMTMom, D, OH (BFA Dance, WL Acting)
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA MT, WL)
Xavier University (BA MT)
MTdancer2024
Congrats, @7Heartsong3 ! Maybe our kids will be classmates!
Please copy and paste the MOST RECENT LIST; paste the entire thread, including ALL directions, when you repost.
Add your member name/info under each school he/she was accepted.
[ color=red]Name, D or S, home state /color
Please be sure to also add your acceptances to the following thread that is arranged by MEMBER NAME.
ADD schools as needed. All schools are BFA MT unless otherwise listed.
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AMDA
kyderbymom, D, KY
MTisNutz, D, TX (LA BFA)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Arcadia
Arizona State
MTisNutz, D, TX (WL)
Auburn
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Austin Peay State University
kyderbymom, D, KY
MTisNutz, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
MissyNNT, D, TX
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Baldwin Wallace (BM MT)
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
Ball State
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT (WL)
MTisNutz, D, TX (WL)
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting, BFA MT WL)
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY ( WL)
Onette, M, TX (Re-Dir: BFA Acting)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA MT, WL)
HAHCx4,D (BFA MT, pWL)
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
Baylor (BFA Theatre Performance - MT Concentration)
Onette, M, TX
Belmont (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
ChengGang, S, TN
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
MissyNNT, D, TX (RD-> BFA MPerf)
PeterPan8th, S, TN
BOCO
MAMABOYZ, S, NJ
MTActing, D
MTSthistime, S
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL)
TheatreDad69, S, CA
7Heartsong3, S, VA
RMT549, D, TX
Cal State Long Beach
MommaCat, D, CA (BFA, Acting)
MTMamoo, D, CA, Major TBD
Cal State Northridge
MommaCat, D, CA (BA, MT)
MTMamoo, D, CA, Major TBD
Carnegie Mellon University
Jasklo, D, MT,
Cap21/Molloy
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
Libish, D, OH
MissyNNT, D, TX
MTMamoo, D, CA (WL)
NeensMom, D, AZ (WL)
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX (WL)
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
HAHCx4,D
CATHOLIC (BM MT)
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
Cincinnati College Conservatory of Music, CCM
7Heartsong3, S, VA
ChengGang, S, TN
MTDad27, D, GA
TheatreDad69, S, CA (WL)
Circle In The Square/Eckerd
MamaBear2020, D, FL
Rocketwoman37, D, VT
Coastal Carolina
CASAmom, D, PA (BFA Physical Theatre)
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
Cornish College of the Arts
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ (BFA Theater, concentration MT)
Elon
ChengGang, S, TN
Emerson College
7Heartsong3, S, VA (BFA Acting)
FlippedOut, D, CA
PeterPan8th, S, TN
SavsMom, D, TX, (MT WL)
tribe216, D, OH (MT WL)
Florida State University
ChengGang, S, TN (BM MT)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
George Mason
MTdancer2024, D, VA
Hartt
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
MTSthistime, S
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA ACTING)
Indiana University Bloomington
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
PeterPan8th, S, TN (WL)
Illinois Wesleyan
SavsMom, D, TX
Ithaca College
ChengGang, S, TN
MTDad27, D, GA
MTSthistime, S
JMU
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
MTdancer2024, D, VA (WL)
closemama, D, TX (BA Theatre)
LIU Post (BFA Theatre ARTS MT)
DramaLove2020, F, VA
Hispassion, M, TX
kyderbymom, D, KY
Libish, D, OH
Looney2020, D, CA
MTDad27, D, GA
MTisNutz, D, TX
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
NeensMom, D, AZ
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Loyola New Orleans (BA MT)
chipmunkmom, D, LA
Mtrose2024, D, CA
Lynn University
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ
MamaBear2020, D, FL
MTdancer2024, D, VA (BFA Acting)
Manhattan School of Music (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
Marymount Manhattan
7Heartsong3, S, VA (WL)
BrennaK, S, OH
closemama, D, TX
FingersXd20, S, NJ
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
NeensMom, D, AZ (WL)
SavsMom, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH
HAHCx4,D
Millikin
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
Libish, D, OH
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX
FlippedOut, D, CA(re-direct BFA Acting)
Missouri State
RMT549, D, TX
Montclair State
TheatreDad69, S, CA
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting)
MTSthistime, S
Muhlenberg
MTisNutz, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH
Murray State
kyderbymom, D, KY,
Nebraska Wesleyan
Depejohnson, S, NE
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
MamaBear2020, D, FL
@RMT549 thank you so much for FINALLY turning our name to red on the list! I could never figure out how to do it when I posted the list LOL. ?
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North Central College (BA MT)
dramamama3, D, NY
North Dakota State
crazytheatregoer, OH
Northern Illinois
ABigCurveBall, D, IL (Acting)
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Northern Kentucky University
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT
kyderbymom, D, KY
Libish, D, OH
Northwestern University
SavsMom, D, TX
NYU Steinhardt
Libish, D, OH
NYU Tisch
MTSthistime, S (WL)
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
Tsamuique, S, VT
7Heartsong3, S, VA
Ohio Northern
closemama, D, TX
DancerMTMom, D, OH, MT
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MTDad27, D, GA
onceuponadancer, D, NC
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX
Ohio U
BrennaK, S, OH
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Depejohnson, S, NE
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MamaBear2020, D, FL (BFA Acting)
MTMamoo, D, CA (WL)
RMT549, D, TX (WL)
shmyers, D, NC
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Oklahoma City University (BM MT)
24mtjourney, D
NYYFANNOWMTDAD, D, NY
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D (BFA Acting)
Otterbein University
BrennaK, S, OH
MTSthistime, S
TheaterDad69, S, CA
Pace University
Jasklo, D, MT
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting-FTVC)
Pepperdine
Onette, M, TX (BFA Acting)
Point Park
7Heartsong3, S, VA
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
MTMamoo, D, CA (BFA Acting)
MTSthistime, S (W/L)
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (Redirect to BFA-Theatre Arts)
Libish, D, OH
Rider
Dramamomma918 D, NC
MTDad27, D, GA
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
Rockford
LadyMjolnir, S, WA
NeensMom, D, AZ
Roosevelt CCPA
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN
ABigCurveBall, D, IL
DancerMTMom, D, OH (Acting)
Mtrose2024, D, CA
shmyers, D, NC
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Samford
kyderbymom, D, KY
MissyNNT, D, TX
Savannah College of Arts & Design (SCAD)
MTMamoo, D, CA, (BFA PA)
Shenandoah
MTDad27, D, GA
Southeast Missouri State
chipmunkmom, D, LA
Depejohnson, S, NE
Libish, D, OH
Southern Illinois University
kyderbymom, D, KY
Stephen’s College
kyderbymom, D, KY
SUNY Fredonia
IStressSoDWont, D, NJ (BFA Acting)
Syracuse
dramamama3, D, NY (BFA ActingED)
MTSthistime, S
Temple
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MissyNNT, D, TX (Redirect BFA Acting/Film)
Onette, M, TX
PeterPan8th, S, TN
Texas Christian University (TCU)
Onette, M, TX (redirect to BFA Acting)
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
Texas State University
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
Texas Tech University
RMT549, D, TX
U Alabama - Tuscaloosa
Onette, M, TX, (BFA Acting) (WL MT)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL MT)
University of Arizona - Tucson
NYYFanNowMTDad, D , NY (WL)
Onette, F, TX (WL)
PeterPan8th, S, TN (WL)
RVCVRN1, S, CA
RMT549, D, TX
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
TheatreDad69, S, CA
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
U of the Arts - Philadelphia
closemama, D, TX
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
NeensMom, D, AZ
onceuponadancer, D, NC
TheatreDad69, S, CA
tribe216, D, OH
HAHCx4,D
UCLA
FlippedOut, D, CA
U Central OK
Onette, M, TX
RMT549, D, TX (BM MT)
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
HAHCx4,D
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (BMA Lyric Theatre)
MTdancer2024, D, VA
U of Kentucky
kyderbymom, D, KY
University of Miami
MTdancer2024, D, VA (WL)
tribe216, D, OH (WL)
U of Northern Colorado
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN (BA MT)
StanfordAI2019, D, TX (WL MT)
UNC Greensboro
GeddyMcNulty
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting WL)
U of Southern California
tribe216, D, OH (BA Drama)
U Tampa
DRAMALOVE2020, D, VA
MamaBear2020, D, FL
MTnervousmom, D, NJ
U Texas Arlington
Onette, M, TX
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
U Wisconsin - Stevens Point
Onette, M, TX (BFA MT)
Onette, M, TX (BFA Acting)
Libish, D, OH (BFA MT)
HAHCx4,D (BFA MT)
closemama, D, TX (BFA MT WL)
U Wyoming
LadyMjolnir, S, WA
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
Utah
MissyNNT, D, TX
Onette, M, TX
RVCVRN1, S, CA
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
HAHCx4,D
Viterbo
2kids2dogs&aclass, D, MN
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
FlippedOut, D, CA
Libish, D, OH
Looney2020, D, CA
RMT549, D, TX
onceuponadancer, D, NC
Sparklyunicorn36, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
VBMomof4, D, FL
Wagner
FlippedOut, D, CA(W/L)
Western Connecticut St
GeddyMcNutty, D, NY
West Texas A&M University
StanfordAI2019, D, TX
West Virginia University
SingerDancerMom, D, VA
Western Kentucky University
kyderbymom, D, KY
Western Michigan
Onette, M, TX
Wright St
closemama, D, TX (BFA Acting)
MTDad27, D, GA
RMT549, D, TX
TheatreDad69, S, CA
SavsMom, D, TX
tribe216, D, OH (BFA Acting)
DancerMTMom, D, OH (BFA Dance, WL Acting)
Rocketwoman37, D, VT (BFA MT, WL)
Xavier University (BA MT)
MTdancer2024
Just needed to add one more decision to the list. All decisions are in! WOOHOO!! Now comes another hurdle, my daughter choosing the one she will attend. Why does this seem like the hardest part of this process?
@RMT549
^It seems like the hardest part of this process because EVERY part is the hardest part of this process!! They are all equally grueling!
Congrats to all on great opportunities and on making it to April!
@upstaged & others…can anyone tell me when the easy (ier)part was??
I think I skipped that step or missed it altogether 
@NYYFanNowMTdad I think the easy part was when they were super little and started singing songs in the basement and we just got to sit there and watch them and think “oh how cute!” After that not so much.
@bloominggirl in hindsight you are right, wish we could have appreciated it more 15 years ago…oh well, we will survive, most those who came before us did as well