@zippy1616 My D and I are both stat-nerds. We love #s, and we (normally) tend to get really, really hung up on them. The information that @EmsDad and others impart is invaluable. Because it is so important to be informed, and to go in with eyes wide open. That said-try not to eliminate a school based on odds. Eliminate schools based on program, proximity, & price, yes. Seek to expand your list? Perhaps. But anything can happen. As my husband has always very astutely told my D: “The only 100% no is if you don’t try.”