<p>yeah, 615, you’re right. mudd will admit a few on the basis of passion. you don’t want to give yourself those odds though if you can do anything about it though.</p>
<p>oh…well you have to maintain a 2.0 GPA while you are at mudd to be able to come back. i guess that was the poster’s question???</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure the poster’s question was regarding the last semester of the high school senior year. He was asking about how low grades would have to be during this last semester to cause Harvey Mudd to revoke their offer of admission.</p>
<p>Ohhhh…</p>
<p>Yeah… I was wondering that too my senior year. Ehh… it was easy anyways so just do well.</p>
<p>two questions:</p>
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<li><p>Is harvey mudd well-known in the engineering world? I mean, do most employers know the type of engineering program that Harvey Mudd offers?</p></li>
<li><p>I’ve heard that Harvey Mudd is not as geeky/nerdy as, say, MIT or Caltech. I’m a smart guy and i’m interested in engineering, but I don’t want to end up going to a college that consists mostly of nerds who no better interest other than discussing quantum physics all day and not have a life outside of academics. How well do you think i would fit in to Harvey Mudd?</p></li>
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<li><p>Every time I tell anyone in the engineering industry where I’m going to school next year, they all say something along the lines of “Wow. That’s a great school.” What they said at orientation is that as you travel east, the reputation declines. But they are working on it. Professors at MIT speak highly of the grad students Mudd produces. So does Boeing. And these are just the guys that they wanted to mention at orientation. I’m sure lots of other people know too.</p></li>
<li><p>This is a livejournal entry I found. I really really hope the guy doesn’t mind me linking to it, because it was really cool. <a href=“http://mikasaur2000.livejournal.com/58395.html[/url]”>http://mikasaur2000.livejournal.com/58395.html</a> . Yah, they’re nerdy. Probably in many ways just as much as Caltech or MITers. But they throw awesome parties. I’m way excited to go next year.</p></li>
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<p>(1) Not speaking from direct experience here, but from everything I’ve ever seen, yes. Plenty well known. And if someone doesn’t know of it, there’s bound to be someone nearby willing to vouch for its quality.</p>
<p>(2) Mudd definitely has a unique techy atmosphere in much the same way as MIT, CalTech, wherever else. The nice thing about Mudd is that it’s tempered by the consortium. Firstly, it allows you to escape from your own common-interest bubble if necessary. Secondly, it attracts students like yourself who share the interests and skill but may not want an overly “techy” environment. It’s definitely unique compared to the majority of colleges in general as well as the other 4Cs, but as another Claremont student, I’ve got to echo the former poster and say it’s pretty awesome. Something for everyone is the way Mudd often strikes me. If you’re concerned about atmosphere, a visit would be great (and visits are always great for people looking at Claremont since it’s a hard set-up to make sense of, anyway).</p>
<p>Best of luck!</p>
<p>1) I think that when I asked this same question before, somebody (forgot who) told me that anybody who is anybody in the engineering world will know of Harvey Mudd. If they don’t, they’re probably not even worth your time.
2) um… as to the nerdy aspect… I don’t really know about much to compare, but when I told my friend who went to Caltech that I was considering HMC, he just laughed and said, “oh man, those guys are even geekier than we are!” And my friend at Caltech is pretty darn geeky… but I’m sure you can find people who aren’t ;). (and I mean none of this as any offense to anybody at HMC too!!)</p>
<p>I do have to add (in response to number 2 above) that anyone you talk to at Mudd is likely to say the exact same thing about CalTech 
Let’s face it, no school in this caliber is going to represent an average cross-section of society. Visit and see what you think!</p>
<p>Hi. I got a few questions, and it would be appreaciated if anyone could answer them.</p>
<p>1) Is Mudd need-blind for international transfer fin aid?
2) How do the course structure at Harvey Mudd, isnt there any specific types of engineering as opposed to ‘general engineering’?
3) Is the 4th year at Mudd only research, or is there still teaching going on as well?
4) How does the intership thing work? What are its benefits?
5) I was rejected at Mudd for freshman admission. Do I stand any chance to transfer in, since Mudd is one of my dream schools?
6) Would it be worthwhile to transfer into Mudd, since I will have to change college for masters degree? Would I be better off transferring to other colleges that offer masters degree?
7) Will it be okay to transfer into Mudd (a liberal art college), if my current college is very narrowly focused in my field of study (I study in Australia)?
8) If I do not like humanities and social science, is it a good idea to consider transferring to Mudd? Will my GPA be hurt by its liberal arts requirement?</p>
<p>I go to another of the Claremont schools, but as someone who spends a fair deal of time around Mudd and Mudders, here are my $0.2:</p>
<p>2) Only general engineering, the idea being that you’ll be well-prepared enough to further pursue whichever branch you’d like. The electives you choose tend to give you an emphasis in one area or another. I have a friend at another school who’d dual majoring in chemistry and engineering since her school doesn’t have an actual “chemical engineering” major, so my assumption is that you could do this at Mudd, too, if you were interested.</p>
<p>3) Teaching still goes on. All majors either have clinic or thesis, but I believe that that only counts as one “class” in your schedule. The rest of your credits will be electives, fishing up degree requirements, perhaps leftover general ed, whatever.</p>
<p>4) By internship, do you mean the clinic program? The Clinic program allows students in certain majors to work as teams on real-life applications rather than to do research theses. Companies give a substantial stipend to teams of 4 (I think it’s always 4, but I could be wrong) to solve some sort of problem. Over the year, the team meets with the company and develops a report, all of which are presented in the week prior to spring finals. The downside is that you don’t get to choose your subject/specialty like you would with a thesis, but as someone who’s racking her brain for a topic right now, I see that as a bit of an upside, too 
The upside is that you get GREAT, valuable, longish-term experience working in your degree (which happens to look wonderful on a resume). I think you can find more on Clinic on the Mudd website, but if this is what you’re asking about, I’ll leave it to a Mudder to give you a better answer.</p>
<p>5) There’s another thread on CC by a girl who went to a fallback school and was accepted as a transfer at her former dream school, but by now she really loves where she’s at and is choosing to stay. Just be sure to go into this year with an open mind, whatever you may do a year down the road :o)</p>
<p>6) I would definitely try to get in touch with someone who’s transferred because the Mudd frosh experience is pretty unique, in terms of class bonding as well as general ed requirements, first semester pass/fail, and so forth. As for wanting to transfer somewhere you can get a masters, I personally don’t put that much weight in it. One reason I chose Claremont was that you’re guaranteed that the emphasis is on undergraduate experience, simply because there isn’t anything else! Every resource, faculty member, course, and opportunity is (at least in theory) available to you. Also, after 3-4 years at a school, no matter how much you love it, the idea of spending 2 more years isn’t that much of a thrill. There are benefits to staying in one place (although some schools are actually less likely to accept their own undergrads, so check on this wherever you go), and also to changing scene. I guess it’s personal preference, and at Mudd it’s true that you wouldn’t have the option of sticking around.</p>
<p>7) As long as your focus of study is relevant to Mudd’s areas of strength, I imagine that will be fine. You can make up the humanities requirements after transferring, and Mudd definitely retains the tech school feel more than the stereotypical LAC feel.</p>
<p>8) Well…it would just kind of suck for you to have to take 11 or whatever non-tech courses, have a non-tech emphasis, etc. if you hate it. I know people whose emphases have been music, art, poli sci, even martial arts, though, so it’s not like you’re just stuck with reading and writing. You can find classes like History of Math, History of Science, and Philosophy of Science, though, so there’s even some overlap. Mudd is ideal for someone with interests in both tech and non-tech fields, rather than somewhere that would allow you to really just study your own thing. That said, I know plenty of people who kind of trudge through the hum requirements. Might be another issue to talk to students about. Also, if you’re too worried about your GPA being hurt, then Mudd might not be a great match as it’s known for grade deflation (which <em>is</em> taken into account by grad school). It’s certainly possible to do well, but juuuust for the record.</p>
<p>Anyway, like I said, I’m not a Mudd student myself, so take my replies with a grain of salt. Good luck next year wherever you’re headed, and in the next, should you decide to transfer :-)</p>
<p>i didn’t read student615’s post in depth…i just skimmed it.</p>
<p>but for what i read, i agree.</p>
<p>Arghh… ok i decided i will try to transfer to Mudd. Could you guys suggest me some colleges that are similar to Harvey Mudd, excluding Caltech (b/c it is always safer to apply to many schools). By this I mean colleges with excellent and rigorous Physics program, good access to faculty, and small class size so that discussion is encouraged (rather than studying alone).</p>
<p>olin college. grinnell. purdue, perhaps?</p>
<p>I don’t think you can transfer into Olin. Everyone starts as freshmen. There are a few students who’ve come there after taking a freshman year elsewhere. </p>
<p>Olin may be accepting international applications for the class of '11.</p>
<p>I thought purdue is a very large school, can you tell me how it is similar to mudd?</p>
<p>Purdue’s not all that similar to HMC, as it’s a public school (and as out-of-state, financial aid is bad), but it’s very easy to get into, and is very strong in engineering~</p>
<p>and mudd is better than purdue</p>
<p>you’re not biased at all, are you?
but I agree, so… whatever.</p>
<p>I am thinking of also applying to rice and uchicago. Are these reasonable choices?</p>
<p>uchicago doesn’t offer any engineering</p>
<p>only apply there if you want to go into physics</p>
<p>And while I guess I am biased, I think I’m still right about HMC>purdue. HMC is one of the top Engineering schools in the country. People applying to places like HMC use Purdue as a safety. It’s a good engineering school, but HMC is up there with “great.”</p>