Thank you, that’s exactly why this question is coming up for him. Thank you for your advice. Now that I figured out how to google what I wanted I am finding the programs I was looking for. The programs are there. One that I found in the state we live in (who knows if he will live here then……) is another 2 year program that leads to certification. This is definitely one of the most important questions he has on the list for the advising appointment.