<p>I use my wife’s cashcard all the time because it’s easier to keep track of one than two. People need to quit making assumptions about how other people run their finances. He claims the investigator was told that clearly. Maybe SHE screwed up.</p>
<p>Yes abusive husbands are th first to report their wives missing–if they are DEAD. Sheeesh. Well, the gloves came off in today’s papers just as I expected. Sue Rahr (sheriff) is in over her head. It has been one screwup after another.</p>
<p>Bluebayou, let me ask you this – what if the missing adult is your 18-year-old daughter? If my kid suddenly disappeared without explanation I sure as hell would want people looking for her.</p>
<p>And if I was laying trapped inside a crumpled vehicle at the bottom of a ravine, I wouldn’t give a flying you-know-what about my privacy. I’d be praying every second that someone, somewhere had noticed my absence and called the cops, and that the authorities were doing everything possible to try to locate me. </p>
<p>It is true that some adults don’t want to be found – and if they are found, alive and healthy, then they can tell that to the cops. The ones who are in peril do want to be found, and it seems to me that the needs of people in potentially life-threatening situations are paramount. If I really want to protect and preserve my own privacy, I won’t do things voluntarily to cause my family and loved ones to fly into a panic and start looking for me.</p>
<p>Updated articles</p>
<p><a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003913653_rider30m.html[/url]”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003913653_rider30m.html</a></p>
<p>As more information drifts in on this case:
<a href=“http://www.kirotv.com/news/14243194/detail.html[/url]”>http://www.kirotv.com/news/14243194/detail.html</a>.</p>
<p>In short, police claim the husband took three days to report her missing, the bank apparently told police that she had been using her card, and when investigators interviewed the woman’s friends at least one said that she could see Rider just driving off to be alone. The story is not chock-full of details, but it sounds more credible than early reports, all of which were mostly composed of quotes from her husband.</p>
<p>Much more detailed version of the police timeline: <a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003917397_webtrappedtimeline01m.html[/url]”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003917397_webtrappedtimeline01m.html</a></p>
<p>First get the facts right–it was two days–48 hours nearly to the minute-- and the reason was widely reported as they both worked two jobs and frequently did not see each other for days.
I use my wife’s bank card cash card all the time as it is easier to keep track of cash on one card–to assume only the wife could use it is dumb.</p>
<p><a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003918021_trapped02m.html[/url]”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003918021_trapped02m.html</a></p>
<p>In post 24 I quoted the KIRO article, which said “three days.” I hadn’t seen the Seattle Times timeline article yet, and the system wouldn’t let me edit post 24 by then.</p>
<p>I’m not sure why you focus on the “dumb” of assuming that the husband wasn’t using her account and not on the “why did it take hubby two days to report her missing?” There is something in this that still doesn’t work out correctly. I’m guessing that the husband isn’t playing with a full deck.</p>
<p>but still- its kinda weird that you could live in the same house with someone- be * married* to them & not be on contact with them for days- I mean don’t they send each other text messages? Notes? Eat food?
Even my Luddite husband knows how to do that- he even sends me email occasionally.</p>
<p>Just like the recent disappearance ( and reappearance) of the jogger on Tiger mountain was a little off- there are bits that don’t fit with this case</p>
<p>But, Ill agree that people under stress do really bizarre things.</p>
<p>My own mother for instance- didn’t call 911 for hours when my father was having a seizure/stroke ( he was 43). She reportedly wanted to teach him a lesson.
I never have asked her what sort of lesson she was thinking of.
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<p>“According to police, Tom … said Tanya had no friends, does not speak with her family and that she is afraid of everyone but him.”</p>
<p>Roxanne at Fred Meyer said “something’s not right with this guy’s story”, referring to Tom Rider.</p>
<p>Actually, that pretty much is the profile.</p>
<p>She is reported to be very introverted and suffer from some depression. To suggest this means her husband is an abuser is a big jump to nowhere. Maybe they are just two slightly weird people who found each other and make things work in their way. As far as I know being a little weird and introverted is not a crime. The fact that she ran off the road after working all night suggests abuse had NOTHING to do with the situation at hand and is a big red herring. I’m thinking lack of rest.</p>
<p>Exactly, Barrons. If a woman worked an all night shift & didn’t make it home, the first thought is falling asleep at the wheel & having an accident. It appears that was mever considered. While the husband’s statement about Tanya’s seperation from her family & lack of friends would fit the abuser husband/battered wife profile, the very FIRST question would be: Did she in fact work the night shift. Windy, rural roads + a sleepy driver = possible car in a ditch. The cell phone signal would quickly confirm or rule out that possibility.</p>
<p>News stories are always a jackpot of truth and misleading info- any one who has been involved in the real story of some one’s life, then read about it in the paper can see where the inconsistencies are, but given that, why did the initial articles talk about them not being able to buy a home (maybe not linked here, but in the local paper), this accident ruining chances at buying the home they rent and her not having health insurance, yet one of the links above has a reference to her having $64k in her bank account? There could be a really valid reason for it, but it does seem odd to have that much saved and not have taken out the health insurance offered by the job- if it was???</p>
<p>Found the link:</p>
<p><a href=“http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=webrider30m&date=20070929&query=rider[/url]”>http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=webrider30m&date=20070929&query=rider</a></p>
<p>I wasn’t meaning to suggest that this case involved an abusive husband; simply pointing out that amidst the outrage over the response of the public authorities in this case many of the factors people (in hindsight) feel should have caused the police to react differently don’t really hold up under scrutiny. And it’s worth considering what the impact of the change in policies some appear to advocate would have on a battered spouse who tries to flee her abusive husband - only to have the police track her down for him? </p>
<p>There’s no simple and obvious solution (except in hindsight.) The police seem to me to have responded reasonably and responsibly given the information stream provided to them. She’s fortunate she didn’t die in the car crash, she’s fortunate that technology has advanced to the point where her rescue was possible, and she’s fortunate that the miscommunications and general human errors in the situation didn’t keep them from finding her.</p>
<p>Oh, and she’s also fortunate that despite the cacophony of whining from the right wing, enough tax dollars were available to make her rescue possible.</p>
<p>The police responded like robots not really looking at the circumstances in the case. And if she were a battered spouse in the same siuation she would have been dead as it is unlikely her husband would have gone to such lengths to find her. </p>
<p>As to the cash, if you want to put down 20% on a house in this area it will take at least $70,000 or so.</p>
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<p>Yabbut, there weren’t any unreported accidents. (Actually, according to a local radio report, a driver told <someone> that she might have glimpsed someone go off the road. The <someone> went to the site and looked around, didn’t find anything, and didn’t call police.) So, no reported accidents, no obvious signs of a crime, and a husband that didn’t pursue a police report for 48 hours. If I were a cop I’m not sure I would jump to “drove off a heavily traveled highway into a huge blackberry bramble in such a way that the driver was trapped but not killed, and that couldn’t been seen by passersby.” Even in semi-rural eastern King County, there has only been one similar case in the news since we moved here ten years ago. That family did not wait 48 hours to pursue the report.</someone></someone></p>
<p>It’s hard to report when hanging upside down with multiple injuries. Why would it be an assumption that anything but an accident or maybe a kidnapping happened. No prior indications of any problems. Buying a house together while working like dogs. Cash in the bank. At least a half hour drive home after working two jobs and overnight. I have nearly fallen asleep driving my 27 miles home at night on more than one occasion. it’s both easy and unforgiving unless you have a co-pilot. I still think they were looking NOT to do any work. Not everyone lives the little ozzie and Harriet lifestyle of calling each other all the time, texting or whatever. I strongly prefer my wife NOT bother me at work unless it’s important. If I were working 16 hours a day the only thing on my mind when I get home is how fast I can get to sleep.</p>
<p>This is a similar story in NY. </p>
<p>Four teenagers went off the road after partying in the woods. Search began immediately and they still weren’t found for 3 days. Not a happy ending…</p>
<p><a href=“http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=626513&category=STATE&BCCode=HOME&newsdate=10/3/2007[/url]”>http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=626513&category=STATE&BCCode=HOME&newsdate=10/3/2007</a></p>
<p>(OnStar runs a commercial with a similar situation. Woman drives off the road into the bushes and they locate her. Makes me want OnStar or a chip implant…)</p>
<p>In Wisconsin they taker a far more sympathetic nuanced approach. In this case the woman was somewhat depressed and was found safe 250 miles from home by a park ranger. She returned home and is getting treatment. Assuming a woman who leaves on her own is in no need of care is stupid.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.madison.com/archives/read.php?ref=/tct/2007/07/27/0707270240.php[/url]”>http://www.madison.com/archives/read.php?ref=/tct/2007/07/27/0707270240.php</a></p>
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