Nader talking about running - comments?

<p>Is Bloomberg socially liberal and fiscally conservative? I don’t think the other candidates are.</p>

<p>Zoosermom, what are you going to do this year? I’ve read you don’t like like McCain very much. Romney?</p>

<p>Nader should get with Kucnich or Paul and form the “Loser’s Ticket”.</p>

<p>“Is Bloomberg socially liberal and fiscally conservative? I don’t think the other candidates are.”</p>

<p>I think he’s socially very liberal and fiscally conservative in some areas but not in others. He’s done good work with the unions (of which my husband is a member), but he’s a great spendthrift on entitlements. My issue with Bloomberg is that I find him the penultimate nanny-stater and I disagree vehemently with the micromanaging of others’ lives. </p>

<p>I’m going to do exactly what his mother said: hold my nose and vote for John McCain.</p>

<p>I can’t see myself voting for John McCain. I’d have to hold my nose too. Everytime I think I might, I watch and listen to him and think…no. I thought he was unimpressive at the debate yesterday, for example.</p>

<p>I haven’t really looked at Bloomberg that closely. If he runs, I will. There aren’t any perfect candidates. </p>

<p>I know I won’t vote for Nadar.</p>

<p>I’d like to see 4 well known candidates running in November. That would be a change. (Unless that throws the election to McCain).</p>

<p>I’d like to see ALL the candidates get equal time on the news, until after ALL the primaries are over.</p>

<p>I’ve always resented Nader for costing Gore the election. I understand his points, and we DO need to have independents to have a chance, but that particular year was too critical and wasn’t the time to make that stand. Of course, who could have predicted just how bad bush would be?</p>

<p>Sometimes people compare Nader’s campaign to Ron Paul’s. But they’re wildly different. Nader appeals to the far left only, whereas Ron Paul appeals to the far left, the far right, and lots of people in the middle. And, his support is much larger than Nader’s. And, even more importantly, now IS the time to make the stand to take back our country and get back to the Constitution.</p>

<p>I only wish Obama would see that. I still have hope that his integrity will prevail, once he wins the nomination.</p>

<p>Comments? How about this: </p>

<p>If any of you volunteer to hold the stake, I’ll hammer it through Nader’s heart.</p>

<p>lealdragon, think Ron Paul will announce as an independent? That would certainly make things interesting!!</p>

<p>Yes, it would! And actually, judging by the amount of support he’s gotten, there is actually a very good chance he could be the first Independent to win the election. The reason I see this as a possibility is that his support has come from the PEOPLE, not corporations. He has managed to raise more $$ than anyone else (not counting Romney’s contributions from his own stash). </p>

<p>So the support is there. We just need more TIME to get the word out (especially since we’ve had to counteract the media bias). We don’t have enough TIME to do that by next week, but if he runs as an Independent, we have until November!</p>

<p>Everyone has been talking about Obama being the candidate for youth, but both my college age sons are major Ron Paul fans, and I’m sure they aren’t the lone rangers at their respective colleges.</p>

<p>I am really conflicted this election, but I would say that Paul is most representative of my beliefs (although I’ve heard some kind of kooky things about him that may make him unelectable in a general election when the mud starts slinging).</p>

<p>On the contrary, there isn’t really any mud to be found. His record is exemplary.</p>

<p>We just got back from seeing Ron Paul at a rally in a little town in Texas. My son and 2 other 20-year-olds rode with me. We got to meet Ron Paul! There were lots of young people there, and lots of energy! Afterwards, we watched the MTV-MySpace debate, being filmed down the street. </p>

<p>Ron Paul has ideas based on the Constitution which come across fresh and new and entirely appealing to the youth.</p>

<p>^^How is all that fund-raising and the magic of the internet working out for Dr. Paul? Has he won any primaries? Since no one ever thought of using the internet before, he ought to have the nomination sewn up by now, right?</p>

<p>lealdragon,
Your adventure reminded me of the time I took my son and his friend (they were 17 at the time) to see Dennis Kucinich down in Venice (CA). He was running in the 2004 election. After his speech, S jumped up and flew over some chairs to go shake the candidates hand. I didn’t vote for him, and S couldn’t because he wasn’t old enough to, but it was neat seeing him up close and personal like that. Sounds like you guys had a great time.</p>

<p>Yes, so cool to see the kids inspired! One of the guys was a Kucinich supporter who likes many of Ron Paul’s ideas, and went with him to take a closer look. So there was plenty of healthy debating during the 2+ hour drive, with thes 19-20-yo’s getting into some very deep and complex thought about the pros and cons of various ideologies such as the various flavors of socialism and capitalism, etc. </p>

<p>coureur: <sigh> The ‘Ron Paul Revolution’ is really a US Revolution to get out country back and restore our civil liberties. The movement is bigger than Ron Paul. As for the nomination, it’s still early and Ron Paul is 1 of 4 candidates still in the race, when there were originally 11. Are you also asking why the other candidates have not ‘sewn up’ the nomination? In case you hadn’t noticed, no one has yet ‘sewn up’ the nomination!</sigh></p>

<p>Well, if Billary gets the nomination, all I can say is Welcome Mr. Nader since the third time around will be the charm.:)</p>

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<p>In case you hadn’t noticed, Ron Paul is WAY behind in collecting Republican delegates. His chance of sewing it up before someone else does is exceedingly low. The current count is 97 for McCain, 92 for Romney, 29 for Huckabee, and a whopping 6 for Ron Paul.</p>

<p><a href=“Election Center 2008: Delegate Scorecard - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com”>Election Center 2008: Delegate Scorecard - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com;

<p>You were the one saying that Ron Paul had this wonderful new tool called the internet that no one had ever used before, and it was going to make all the difference and propel him to victory. I’m still waiting to see this miracle happen.</p>

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<p>Respectfully, coureur, your opinion about his chances means nothing…it’s only an opinion.</p>

<p>You seem to be trying to put me on the defensive and it’s really ridiculous. It’s early in the game and no one knows what the outcome will be.</p>

<p>I’ve never said that Ron Paul will DEFINITELY win. I only pointed out that he should never have been written off, especially so early in the game. At the time I made the comments about the internet, the primaries hadn’t even happened yet, and people were saying ‘Ron Paul has no chance’ just because they were parroting what they’d heard on the mainstream media. My point was that it was ridiculous to make such comments because his internet support is unprecedented; therefore, its impact is unpredictable. </p>

<p>Now, after a few primaries, it is STILL too early to predict. I’ve seen articles claiming that Romney may drop out by Wed.! Yet, each primary has had a different configuration, meaning that the Super Tues. primaries could easily surprise everyone. Also, if you think 97 is a significant number of delegates…well, they still have a very long way to go. What’s more, if there isn’t a clear winner, there will be a brokered convention, and if there is a brokered convention, Ron Paul will be there. </p>

<p>There were originally 11 Republican candidates, and now it’s down to 4. Regardless of the final outcome, Ron Paul, that ‘fringe’ candidate, has done quite well! He has maintained a higher score than the predicted frontrunner, giuliani. So already that has been a success.</p>

<p>The bottom line is that Ron Paul HAS had a much larger internet following than anyone ever before, and this is definitely a wild card. To date, thanks to the media censorship, many people still haven’t even heard of him. If his support continues to grow, he could easily run as an Independent, in which case we’d have another 10 months to get the word out.</p>

<p>Anyway, as I said, the message of returning to the Constitution is far, far more important than whether he wins the Republican nomination or the presidency. Already, because of his support, at least a dozen other candidates for lesser offices have sprung up, running on the same platform. So, even if Ron Paul’s support fizzles out, the movement will continue.</p>

<p>And THAT is what’s important.</p>

<p>Maybe its because his best friend and closest advisor - the racist one - just isn’t a particularly good organizer.</p>

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<p>Unfortunately for Ron Paul, the mainstream media turned out to be right on that point. The poll trends were pretty clear then and were not in Ron Paul’s favor and have subsequently been confirmed in every primary and caucus held so far. </p>

<p>It wouldn’t suprise me, after Dr. Paul finally admits the obvious, that he would decide to make a third party run for the presidency. But that will just exile him to Naderland – a remote and irrelevant place where fading voices preach to tiny, dwindling bands of True Believers. Perhaps Ralph and Ron could run on the same ticket - for the Don Quixote Party.</p>

<p>Whatever. I’m not wasting any more time on pointless ‘debates’ with you or mini, who don’t seem to know much about him at all.</p>