<p>I cast my vote in the If They Want To Have Naked Parties That’s OK With Me camp:).</p>
<p>Threads like these are pretty interesting to me as we contemplate the wayward ways of the youth of today … just as our parents worried about us being the downfall of civilization.</p>
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I have a few of those I can’t exactly tell my kids but about which I need to call my college buddies occationally and laugh until it hurts. I can’t imagine trying to talk to my kids about naked parties being bad because then I’d have to somehow claim that skinny dipping, toga parties (with lots of togas that didn’t stay on very well), streaking, and strip poker are somehow different … otherwise I’d be a pretty big hypocrit arguing what they should not do. College was a blast for me … I only hope it is for my kids also … and that would include doing lots of stuff I don’t want to know about!</p>
<p>The topic of college nudity actually came up several times in D’s college search thanks to the Yale College Guide (or Yale Insider’s Guide or whatever it was called). Many, many schools have some sort of naked tradition including Yale. Naked track teams, streaking around the fountain, running to the flame, streaking during finals, naked Ultimate Frisbee Team. I have to admit though, the naked salon is not my favorite of the traditions.</p>
<p>@ Reed they have picting-paint themselves blue and scream like the proverbial banshees ( or Picts) while running through campus at Renn Fayre
- so I had to go looking for pictures of Renn Fayre- until I was sure that I recognized my daughter-
TMI:eek:</p>
<p>“One night I got naked with a bunch of people in college. Let’s just say that the police got involved and a few people were hospitalized afterwards.”</p>
<p>cheers: Can you elaborate a bit? This gets to the crux of what is being discussed here, since it’s similar to what edad mentioned early-on in this thread–that kids were “hospitalized” after a naked party. Why would kids need to be “hospitalized” for goodness’ sake, if they’re just sitting around naked, talking? There seems to be a disconnect here.</p>
<p>We weren’t sitting in a room. We drove to a ‘neked’ destination. No drugs or alcohol were involved. No sex either. I’m not going to say why the police and medics were involved and you’ll never guess, but it was a source of massive amusement to all involved the following day.</p>
<p>I imagine poison ivy could be a massive hazard for naked parties in the woods!</p>
<p>LOL. Yes, but there was no poison ivy at this particular destination.</p>
<p>Phew. All right-wing urban legends then. Glad we got that straightened out.</p>
<p>HS…was that a CGM-esque post?</p>
<p>There are neked parties and there were neked parties when I went to university. There are kids getting neked in single dorm beds and there were kids getting neked in single dorm beds when I went to school.</p>
<p>Honestly, the biggest difference between then and now are the co-ed floor dorms. As neked as I was in university, 
, I wouldn’t want my daughter on a co-ed freshman floor. That’s a day in, day out situation with strangers–far more worrying than a single neked party. Says me-- but what do I know?</p>
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<p>Ah, the perils of dormcest! I have to admit, though, I saw more of it at Bryn Mawr than I did at any coed school…wonder if that’s what parents had in mind when they imagined the safe, cozy tea parties of an all-female school!</p>
<p>It’s HH - heres’hoping.
Or at least shopping was spelled with two p’s when I went to university.</p>
<p>Just because the parties are there doesn’t mean you have to go. Next year I will be attending a school known for drinking and, well, pretty much everything. I like to hope that my parents are unlike some on this thread and trust me to make well-informed decisions.</p>
<p>Also, to those who won’t pay for a school that has “these parties”–why allow your kid to go to school at all? Who says that he/she will even attend a party? Who knows if he/she will be confronted with something “worse” at a school of which you approve?</p>
<p>If you read the numerous pages of this thread, you will probably note that most parents are not very concerned and the consensus seems to be reflected by Alumother: “I cast my vote in the If They Want To Have Naked Parties That’s OK With Me camp.”</p>
<p>I am not as convinced. On the first college visit we encountered a college where alcohol, drugs and naked parties had gotton out of hand and were a major part of the campus culture. My D decided she did not want that kind of environment. On subsequent college visits she spend some time trying to assess the social and cultural environment. Naked parties are probably not all that common and as you mention they can be avoided. Alcohol and drug abuse is a bigger problem. It is not always easy to avoid the unpleasant consequences of these. You may end up with a roommate who likes to party. If you feel like going to bed at 3am and she and her friends are still partying in the room, you may feel differently. Same thing when the bars let out and the rowdies return to the dorms. Same thing when you go to use the restrooms Saturday morning and find puke on the walls. Unfortunately, these are not rare events. At many colleges they are the norm. I could go on and tell you about friends of my D’s who attend party schools and developed drinking problems as freshmen or my friend’s son who flunked out at the end of freshman year due to drinking. Maybe these kids are not typical. At most colleges, heavy drinkers are less than 50% of the students. At some colleges, they are less than 25%. The heavy drinkers and drug abusers often seem to have a disproportionate impact. </p>
<p>Best of luck adapting to your “party” school and making wise choices.</p>
<p>Am I the only one who has both lived on a coed floor and been to a naked party?</p>
<p>There was zero sex at mine. Not much drinking either as I recall.</p>
<p>It was about 40 people. It was in a large dorm bathroom. I was brought as a date by someone and did not know a soul (the only reason I was okay with going). It was hilarious-- I had a great time-- and in fact 27 years later I am still very close friends with several people I met at that party. One of them I would count as one of my 5 or 10 best friends in life. </p>
<p>It was basically just like skinny dipping; haven’t most of us done that at one time or another?</p>
<p>I don’t love the idea of my D at a big naked brawl with a ton of booze, but at one that was as low key and silly as mine, a la skinny dipping-- it would not freak me out.</p>
<p>You see, you get a list of “concerned parents” together and no one’s talking. There never is any group sex, surely not an “orgy”, we never experienced any, and our kids most definitely not. (No ever one saw anyone drink 21 drinks on their 21st birthday either, and other than my alma mater and Duke, there are no other schools where 29% of the student body is made up of heavy (5-day a week) drinkers or almost a third of student body experienced an alcohol blackout in the past year.</p>
<p>Funny thing is, virtually every survey of college life undertaken in the past 25 years shows all of this is not particularly uncommon. </p>
<p>I guess, really, we’re all a bunch of Mennonites. ;)</p>
<p>Doesn’t Bob Jones University have these?</p>
<p>Edad–quite echo your concerns about party schools. My D transfered away from one because the whole drink to your vomit atmosphere made her miserable. The school whwere she encountered a “naked party” couldn’t be more unlike the first one, as far as out of control, destructive drinking. Yeah, there’s drinking everywhere, but the difference in sheer amount, coupled with what kinds of behavior was considered tolerable, was night and day. The fact is, the two schools just attracted different types of students–the stuff you saw would have been considered out of bounds behavior at D’s second school, despite the occasional nakedness.</p>
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Yeah. I don’t know if I have a feeling of moral superiority concerning this. But I do have a sense of moral rectitude that forces me to judge, for myself, the propriety of nude parties and such. I have contempt for them. I’m not sure why, but I just think they are a perversity of something I hold in very high regard. I’ll try to explore it here, but its hard for me to deal with it.</p>
<p>We are all united in the sense that we can viscerally identify with the same pain, needs and desires. In this broad sense we share an intimacy or “union” because we are of the same species. Yet, there are people who I do not know and with whom I nevertheless have intimacy beyond this. Readers here, for example, share some degree of intimacy with me because I have shared some of my mind on this forum, albeit in relative anonymity. Still even greater intimacy exists between my friends and me. These people know my face and also have parts of my mind. The profoundest human intimacy begins when certain sexual regions of the human body are brought together in sexual union, which union is reflected in each of us. This intimacy is set apart from all others because it necessarily locks out all but one other person. Yes, we may frolic sexually with many others, even simultaneously, but when we look at the sexual union that expresses itself into what we are, we see that it involves only two people, a guy and a gal – and no others. This profoundest level of human intimacy is who we are, and it begins when sexual regions of the human body are revealed.</p>
<p>I can’t help, therefore, feeling that where profound intimacy is concerned, public nudity is a perversion of the relationship that comprises me. I could not myself engage in this (and never have) because I wish to preserve my idea of intimacy, reserving the profoundest degrees of nakedness for just one other person, beginning at the place of physical nakedness and proceeding onward until my whole self is revealed.</p>
<p>I do not judge those who think profound intimacy begins at some point beyond physical nakedness. I am saying my perspective causes me to think engaging in physical nakedness in the context of a public party would be a willful perversion of how I envision myself.</p>
<p>Garland, I am aware that at some of the more liberal LAC’s liberal behavior is complemented with purple hair, piercings and clothing-optional events and even clothing-optional coed dorms. These behaviors do not mean that these schools also have worse than usual alcohol and drug problems. Even so I am glad my D decided to look for more conventional college cultures.</p>