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<p>Lealdragon, have you no shame? How can you possibly pass off such unfounded drivel as fact? Talk about slimey!</p>
<p>So…putting aside the politics…Prior to the rewriting of doctrine, and the change in emphasis even in the name of the religion that occurred in the early 1990s, wasn’t Huckabee describing the relationship between Jesus and Satan part of orthodox Latter Day Saint doctrine? If he went to seminary prior to then, this might be precisely what he was taught. If he went prior to 1978, he would have been taught, correctly, that, according to Latter Day Saints’ theology, the dark skin of Africans was a reflection of their sinfulness. Growing up, that is what Romney himself would have been taught (hope he flipflopped.)</p>
<p>I have no idea whether it was an honest question. But as Huckabee is slammed for embracing his church’s theology (i.e. creation in 6 six days 6,000 years ago), wouldn’t it be equally “interesting” to know what part of Latter Day Saints’ doctrine Romney embraces?</p>
<p>mini, I believe Huckabee went to seminary in 1976 at Southwestern Theological Seminary in Ft. Worth. At the time the seminary was NOT controlled by the fundamentalists. It appears he graduated from Ouachita Baptist in 1975.</p>
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<p>That would depend on whether huckabee is as much of a hagee supporter as hagee claims. </p>
<p>Anyway, this is a discussion forum, remember. We all have opinions. I simply stated my opinion based on MY interpretation of what I’ve read about the connection between hagee and huckabee. I do know a fair amount about hagee, since his mega-‘church’ is in my city. I’ve seen him speak, I’ve been to his church, I’ve watched him on tv. hagee is pretty clear on his warmonger intentions.</p>
<p>Usually opinions are not labled as “fact”:</p>
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<p>I find it ironic that on a post about nasty political attacks that you resort to your own nasty attack.</p>
<p>OK, I will concede that I shouldn’t have used the word ‘fact.’</p>
<p>Do some research on hagee and huckabee.</p>
<p>Here’s some info on hagee. (I already posted something about hagee and huckabee, but there’s more out there.)</p>
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<p>[Protecting</a> Israel is San Antonio pastor John Hagee’s mission | Dallas Morning News | News for Dallas, Texas | Religion](<a href=“http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/102807dntexhagee.37a2adf.html]Protecting”>http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/102807dntexhagee.37a2adf.html)</p>
<p>To equate a candidate’s views to those of his/her supporters is perilous ground. Does that mean that Democrats are pro-pornography because Larry Flynt supports them? Or that Ron Paul is pro-prostitution because he has a brothel owner that supports him?</p>
<p>But, even at looking at what you posted about Hagee, it doesn’t look like he is “promoting” the start of WWIII but conversely trying to avoid what he perceives could become World War III. You may disagree with his prescription for avoiding WW III and you may even say that his position may lead to it, but I see nothing that indicates that he is actively advocating WWIII as a means to bring about armageddon.</p>
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<p>Sounds like someone else has read Catch-22.</p>
<p>“mini, I believe Huckabee went to seminary in 1976 at Southwestern Theological Seminary in Ft. Worth. At the time the seminary was NOT controlled by the fundamentalists. It appears he graduated from Ouachita Baptist in 1975.”</p>
<p>So, it then appears that Huckabee was taught correctly (from the little I know). He would have been taught (as Romney was taught) that Latter Day Saints believe Jesus and the devil were brothers, and he would have been taught (as Romney was taught) that Latter Day Sainst believe that the skin color of Black people reflects their inherent sinfulness. This would lead me to believe that Huckabee’s question was NOT a nasty attack, but, in fact a quite honest one, and not a political gambit.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t vote for either of them (I don’t think), but that’s an entirely different issue.</p>
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<p>I agree with this completely. Based on what I’ve read about huckabee & hagee, some of which I have not posted here (will see if I can find it again), I have concluded that hagee is not just a supporter in the way that a pro-whatever person might support whichever candidate. I got the distinct impression that hagee & huckabee work closely together.</p>
<p>I did say ‘impression.’ I could be wrong. But it’s worth investigating, because of the serious implications, should he be elected president.</p>
<p>“I did say ‘impression.’ I could be wrong. But it’s worth investigating, because of the serious implications, should he be elected president.”</p>
<p>Is Barack Obama’s minister fair game too? Are you researching that? Please let us know what you find, ok?</p>
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<p>But the god I DO believe in is a kind and benevolent god.</p>
<p>Well if his minister has his ear and would be instrumental in possibly starting a war, then yes.</p>
<p>Who’s watching the debate? I really wish that Bill Richardson would get more play!</p>
<p>“Well if his minister has his ear and would be instrumental in possibly starting a war, then yes.”</p>
<p>How 'bout you do some research on that for yourself and see what you think? I would be most interested in your opinion.</p>
<p>“Catholics don’t worship Mary”</p>
<p>This is where the contrasting terminology of different religions gets in the way. Perhaps Catholics don’t consider their devotions to Mary to be worship. But by my understanding of the word, if you get on your knees before the image of an immortal being and address prayers to that being, it’s worship. If we (meaning the voting public) don’t agree about what a word means, we’re inevitably going to misunderstand one another.</p>
<p>I think it’s perfectly legitimate to inquire about the details of a candidate’s faith IF that candidate identifies faith as a central part of his/her image and makes frequent references to how that faith informs his/her judgment and decision-making. Huckabee talks about his faith enough that I think it’s fair to seek further information about it. When candidates don’t bring it up, then I won’t, either.</p>
<p>“Huckabee talks about his faith enough that I think it’s fair to seek further information about it. When candidates don’t bring it up, then I won’t, either.”</p>
<p>Fair enough. That’s the same context under which it was permissible for the Swift Boat Veterans to delve into and question John “Reporting-for-Duty” Kerry.</p>
<p>This one takes the cake:</p>
<p>[YouTube</a> - Lois Davidson tells her story](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFTdif_Lvsk&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2007/12/13/mother-of-dumond-victim-if-not-for-huckabee-shed-be-here-for-christmas/]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFTdif_Lvsk&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2007/12/13/mother-of-dumond-victim-if-not-for-huckabee-shed-be-here-for-christmas/)</p>
<p>So Hill going to a Southern Baptist Church doesn’t count? I personally find it interesting that the dems attack Huck (I say again…don’t read into this as if I support him), yet they still love JFK who had to come out and defend his religious beliefs. Why is it we are so cynical to judge each other without remember the bullet you just shot can come back and hit you?</p>