<p>I am Asian (an old one, mid-30’s)–
I disagree—
URMs should have a leg up at this crucial point
because their parents (and previous generations)
were discriminated against for so long</p>
<p>Believe me when URMs graduate they will be discriminated against
so many people are small minded in this world</p>
<p>I believe in affirmative action</p>
<p>Did anyone get a phonecall from QB AFTER they were matched (like today) to see if you had any questions and had received the email?</p>
<p>dont you think asians are a URM too? and middle easterners? especially arabs? i mean, middle easterns have to put caucasian on everything. Personally, I don’t know enough about what the specific reasoning behind Affirmative action is so I can’t be confident in my reasoning. But, if the reasoing is that the URMs have a disadvangtage because of their race, I think socioeconomic issues have a much bigger impact on success than race does. It just so happens that the two are usually somewhat correlated</p>
<p>yeah seriously… especially since my friend, who happens to be mexican has wayyy lower scores than I do, and way less ECs and leadership positions than I do. but if he gets in instead of me, I’ll be mad, because he has a higher income than me.</p>
<p>jsterrence, yes, that is the basis for affirmative action, but by giving URMs who aren’t more qualified than other groups a leg up is essentially discrimination by acknowledging that they are a “sub-par” class. I am not a conservative or anything, but as Chief Justice John Roberts said, “The way to end racial discrimination is to stop discriminating by race", which at first glance looks like a ridiculous redundant quote, but really does make sense if you think about it.</p>
<p>immortalix: well, it’s a vicious cycle then isnt it? because we discriminate by race to make up for racial discrimination, so as long as one exists, so will the other</p>
<p>there was a discussion a couple days ago about socioeconomic vs. racial AA ^</p>
<p>going to repeat my question bc im anxious
Did anyone get a phonecall from QB AFTER they were matched (like today) to see if you had any questions and had received the email?</p>
<p>GUYS.</p>
<p>my commonapp is so much better than my QB app.</p>
<p>is it okay if i don’t ask QB to forward my QB app to QB schools and just submit the commonapp to them (labeling myself as a finalist). </p>
<p>of course, this doesn’t apply to schools that are like “we ONLY want to see your QB app.”</p>
<p>what do you guys think?</p>
<h2>Amherst says they ‘prefer’ the QB app…but we can send them common app if we insist…</h2>
<p>basically, there’s inaccurate info. on my QB app (an update to an EC is needed). and i honestly don’t want to contact 10 colleges to give them an update. plus, my QB essays are that polished…ugh…</p>
<p>2 things.</p>
<p>1) can we not sidetrack and talk about AA. come on, guys.</p>
<p>2) i’m going to say this in the most respectful way possible. you guys that were matched. i sincerely congratulate you and believe that you guys must’ve been amazing or you wouldn’t have been matched. with that said, will it be possible to not come to this thread and lament about emails/phone calls from your matched school. understand that most of us were not matched and in most cases, were denied by the same college that matched you. after all, we are only human, and it really does hurt a little to see posts from kids who did get matched talking about their match…</p>
<p>so please, try not to post things like “guys, do you think i should call princeton/yale etc. to verify etc. etc…” when most of us are worrying about QB RD (and we really don’t have much time either…) c’mon now…</p>
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<li><p>The Affirmative Action debate has been done. Thousands of times. What does more harm than any good at all is debating whether or not ANY person “deserved” or was “qualified” for a spot on campus. I will have to go my whole life fending off people who wonder if I got in because I was black. NO. I got in because I worked my ass off, and because I was lucky. So did everyone else. Period.</p></li>
<li><p>I am probably not going to stop talking about getting Matched. In the spring, I’m not going to ask you to stop lamenting your options. We’re all here for support. No one is trying to dish on anyone else because we got Matched and someone else didn’t. We ALL deserved it. We ALL earned it. We have ALL worked hard. Get Matched is at least 50% good luck. You stuck with us through the QB process. We’re sticking with you through the RD process. And there are other Matched students here: I’m talking to them, as well. Do you really think we don’t understand how you are feeling just because you weren’t Matched? You WILL go great places. We WILL see you along the way, our own hesitations and all. We aren’t your enemies here.</p></li>
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<p>GUYS.</p>
<p>my commonapp is so much better than my QB app.</p>
<p>is it okay if i don’t ask QB to forward my QB app to QB schools and just submit the commonapp to them (labeling myself as a finalist). </p>
<p>of course, this doesn’t apply to schools that are like “we ONLY want to see your QB app.”</p>
<p>what do you guys think?</p>
<h2>Amherst says they ‘prefer’ the QB app…but we can send them common app if we insist…</h2>
<p>basically, there’s inaccurate info. on my QB app (an update to an EC is needed). and i honestly don’t want to contact 10 colleges to give them an update. plus, my QB essays are that polished…ugh…</p>
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<p>@applicannot: i am not trying to say that you guys are enemies at all. i’m just saying…when i see people who are matched come here and talk about the most minor things about their acceptance when it is apparent that most of us unmatched kids have a lot more important things to do this month is rather inconsiderate.</p>
<p>Do you think so? I don’t think our concerns are any less trivial than one non-updated EC on the QB app when it is clearly preferred. But before I get any snarkier, I’m going to bed.</p>
<p>Ah, interesting, face-off between the matched and non-matched QB finalists. Too bad the matched kids are already in college.</p>
<p>Anyway, if you got a phone call asking if you had any questions, you got a phone call. It seems like a nice gesture by QB, and you don’t need to worry too much. You’re in college for free! But of course, you still worry because you haven’t received an official notification. We understand. If people don’t reply to your post immediately, just post again later. Unmatched finalists outnumber matched finalists by huge numbers, and most matched finalists are probably taking a break since they are pretty much done with the college admissions process.</p>
<p>As for Code H’s concerns, I have the same concerns, as do probably many other QB finalists who were not matched. After not getting matched, you start running through your head all the possible problems with your app, perhaps it was your essays, your ECs, your situation, your recs, your grades, your interview, etc. And then you want to redo your own app. True, it could simply be that the matched finalists were simply better qualified, but now you have a load of insecurities and second-thoughts and you likely want to make drastic changes (I know I do). It is within everyone’s right to fret.</p>
<p>forget it. 10char</p>
<p>Code H, I think it’s okay for you to not forward your QB app. Do the colleges really read the QB app if they also request the Common App + Supplement? I don’t quite see the point of the Common App + Supplement if they are just going to read your QB app.</p>
<p>@ Code H </p>
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<p>I don’t see why they shouldn’t be on this thread discussing things related to QB. Where else will they talk about QB acceptances? Many of those who have been accepted have acknowledged your pain and have shared their sympathies. </p>
<p>Don’t let this kill your morale. Focus more on your applications and look forward to RD decisions! </p>
<p>FTR, I wasn’t even chosen as a finalist.</p>
<p>powerbomb, you mad dedicated to still be following this thread</p>
<p>and what does FTR stand for?</p>
<p>hahaha. I wasn’t really following this thread - it just appeared on the “latest post” </p>
<p>FTR stands for For The Record. haha</p>
<p>Hm I think it’s pretty funny how the AA debate popped up out of nowhere. I’m somewhat of an outsider in this forum, but doesn’t the questbridge program help economically disadvantaged students much like Affirmative Action helps minorities? I find that the juxtaposition of QB and AA yields minute differences. The purpose of AA is to give minories the opportunities in an intense environment that tend to favor certain types of applicants. In the college admissions setting, colleges use AA to reserve places for URMs…not to lower standards for them. I’m sure HYP would take an extraordinary hispanic student over a less accomplished black student and not both. I feel that my generation is somewhat ignorant of the institutions of the past. Those who are adamantly opposed to AA seem to be embittered youth who see it as an unfair advantage for their minority peers. I hardly notice the effects of AA in college settings…top colleges try their best to admit highly qualified students and I suppose when there are either too many of the same cookie-cutter perfectionists, they opt to go in other directions. Of course I understand the “injustice” of allowing an individual who seems less qualified on paper than another highly qualified individual, but if colleges were to only admit kids with 2300+ SAT scores and 4.0 gpas wouldn’t they be forced to admit the same students over and over again? Diversity is a funny thing, I guess. In order to accommodate we must exclude?</p>
<p>I am neither for or against AA…just making a comment</p>