National society of high school scholars

<p>Please read this before you choose to believe those who have never seen this organization in action:</p>

<p>My S received a $5,000 scholarship for his freshman yr from this organization. There were more than 10,000 applications for the award. We went to Washington, DC to receive it. There was standing room only at the Dirksen Senate Office Building’s HUGE ballroom – hundreds of people, maybe even more than a 1,000. We talked to people who came from all over the country, including midwest and western states, brought their entire families with them.</p>

<p>Speaker after speaker from very reputable student organizations like Outward Bound, extolled the mission of an organization that promotes the notion that high achieving high school students who seek to make a difference in the world are more likely to actually do so with their lives.</p>

<p>After my son rec’d this award, he rec’d a handwritten note from the president of the university he chose to attend (who must have found out about it through the fin aid ofc after we notified them of the outside scholarship), congratulating him on this “prestigious” award from a “respected” student organization, and inviting him to stop by his office when he got to campus. </p>

<p>And by the way, Claes Nobel made time to talk with my son privately. He could not have been any warmer or more personal. </p>

<p>Here’s hoping to debunk a few myths. . . .</p>

<p>From my limited reading about this organization, it appears that the $$ they give out in scholarships is acquired from the $45 they charge to “join”. FWIW, I threw out my son’s “invitation” to join.</p>

<p>The difference is between people who are guessing about this organization and those who, like us, have watched it in action and experienced its people, programs, and principles. You may choose not to participate, of course, but please refrain from slandering until you have information rather than speculation.</p>

<p>When the president of a top LAC is prompted to write to one of his students, completely unsolicited, that he has “already made his university proud” for having been recognized by a such a “prestigious” and “respected” organization as NSHSS, I think the organization deserves more than uninformed derision. </p>

<p>When the Senate of the United States provides its largest meeting facility, and those who choose to participate come from far and wide to make it a standing room only educational and awards event, I think the organization deserves more than suspicious dismissal.</p>

<p>When established student services organizations stand up to support the organization in its mission of encouraging high school students to aspire to lives of purpose and service, and there are Nobel Prize winners and academic leaders serving the organization, I think the organization deserves respect. </p>

<p>So, whether you pay for membership and take advantage of its services is up to you. But please let’s get the facts straight.</p>

<p>With all due respect, Esquette, just because some people have lent their big names to an advisory board of an organization doesn’t automatically give it the credibility we would like. The Eisenower family still puts their name on the People to People Student Ambassador program, and while it is an excellent experience, many people consider it a glorified international teen tour. In my profession, there are organizations/ Board Certifications that have many big “names” on advisory panels, but these supposed “Board Specializations” are really what we refer to as a “vanity board”-- you pay your money, you get a pretty certificate. Yes, there are conferences and good educational programs available with membership to these Boards, but attendance costs $$$$ to hear well known people speak (who are paid a nice sum for their presentation). </p>

<p>All that said, I am glad you have had a positive experience, and that your S. was awarded a scholarship. We looked into a scholarship a few yrs ago that had a small applicatin fee, and though we’d been advised against paying such fees, this was a legit scholarship, funded by a foundation.</p>

<p>What I had read so far about the nshss was mixed. But since you had a good experience, I thought it would be readonable to look into it a bit more. had to go dumpster-diving to find the invitation in the trash. Think they’ll mind the barbeque chicken wing sauce all over it??? :)</p>

<p>I posted a good expose article that covers this and other organizations (some scams, some not so scammy) on the following thread:</p>

<p>“Marketers target kids who seek an edge”</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=327665[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=327665&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>No fees to attend NSHSS events or meetings. No fee to apply for scholarship. No fee for newsletter. And NSHSS Members receive discounts from certain educational program sponsors, so dues might be recouped in whole or part if a member chooses to attend one.</p>

<p>On the topic of “enrichment” programs:</p>

<p>Educational experiences and inspirations come from many sources. I know families who have had valuable experiences from organizations such as People to People, National Leadership Forum, Scholar Athlete Games, etc. – seeing the world and their futures in a way they would never be able to see otherwise. </p>

<p>For example, how does one duplicate for a 15 year old 12 days at Georgetown University in the company of other high school students, college students, professors, and professionals who share your interest in medicine, shadow Hopkins med students, interview AIDs patients, listen to the compelling story of the national spokesperson for the Mental Health Assn, etc? This can be an invaluable education.</p>

<p>But most importantly, these are all voluntary experiences – and expenses. For those who are fortunate enough to attend and learn, they can have a lifelong influence. Organizations that provide and promote these opportunities are not scams simply because their services are not free. We certainly don’t apply that label to colleges who offer comparable experiences to their students, and even to high school students in summer college programs – for a price.</p>

<p>asteriskea’s article is interesting. Esquette, did you have to pay your own way to DC , arrange for lodging, etc. to receive the scholarship $$ ? Just wondering…</p>

<p>No, it’s not a scam … just a corporation built on an entirely unethical foundation. Not a scam, but a corporation that’s hiding behing a “glowing” name and a for-profit status and enlisted an aging and gullible aristocrat in need of a bit of recognition, if not a few bucks. The fact that they pay out a small fraction of their income in the form of vanity scholarships, and probably BUY their circus act in Washington, DC does not make any less despicable and dishonest. </p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0304/HS_recognition.asp[/url]”>http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0304/HS_recognition.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>No wonder why the good Mr. Lewis did not apply for a non-profit status. He probably could not get it!</p>

<p><a href=“http://chronicle.com/weekly/v48/i32/32a03701.htm[/url]”>http://chronicle.com/weekly/v48/i32/32a03701.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p><a href=“http://www.carillon.uregina.ca/99.01.14/news/nonprofit.html[/url]”>http://www.carillon.uregina.ca/99.01.14/news/nonprofit.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I stand educated by these articles. Thank you, Xiggi.</p>

<p>But I also stand by my personal experiences reported above. For our family, NSHSS provided real inspiration, real honor, and real money. We saw and heard from real students, including those whose musical talent is neither “for profit” nor a sham. We saw and heard from real representatives of student services organizations, all of whom encouraged these students to challenge themselves to think outside the box, to aspire to lives of purpose and service. The only expenses have been the one time membership dues and the cost of gas in getting ourselves to DC for the NSHSS event (a day trip for us). The $5,000 check was mailed to my S’s university – no deductions. The unsolicited note from the University president – priceless. </p>

<p>So to the extent that NSHSS’s mission is to encourage high school students, rather than to provide a resume line item, we have personal experience that it performs this function.</p>

<p>For anyone who thinks that spending $45 to join a student organization is a “magic bullet” that will get them into school, the investment is not likely worth it. But choosing to participate in a student organization that promotes and provides educational experiences is a valid reason to join.</p>

<p>One more thing, Xiggi – what is the date of the JWR article on NSHSS? Seems like it might not be recent - mentioning the organization is only two years old, but I know it’s older than that. Tried the link but it is undated.</p>

<p>This is a bloody scam. PLEASE DONT APPLY FOR IT, and CERTAINLY DONT PUT IT IN YOUR RESUME. it will label SUCKER in big large words on your college application.</p>

<p>What kind of a honorsorgainisation has a STORE to sell memoiribilia that cost up to $100??!! And they sent me this hude press release which is just a poorly disguised PR attempt.</p>

<p>I wish I could personally conatct this founder, who is so obviously a cheat, and abuse the hell out of this scamster. Alas, I am an international and dont want to waste more of my money.</p>

<p>THIS IS A SCAM!!! TELL YOUR FRIENDS! and people in the USA, please try to get a class action suit against this guy (who has already been fired once). I will feel so much better if he spends time behind bars.</p>

<p>My high school counsellor laughed whne he saw the ornate certificate and press release. When he found out that i paid good money, h e;aughed even more. When he found out that I listed it as an academic honour in my ECs, he stopped laughing.</p>

<p>I just hope the ivies realise that I am an international and couldnt know better. replies are 4 days away.</p>

<p>And oh yes, esquette, why do i get this sneaky feeling that you are in the PR dept of NSHSS?? </p>

<p>NSHSS: national society of high school SCAMMING!!!</p>

<p>Esquette, you don’t have to pay an organization like Natl Leadership Forum to shadow a doc at Hopkins. Save the money, contact your local med school and find a doc your kid can shadow for free. it’ll look jusdt as good on your kid’s resume, believe me. Plus you’ll have all that money to put towards college.
Speaking as med school faculty here.</p>

<p>I am proud to say that I received a letter from the National society of high school scholars-
of course the last time I was in high school as a student was in the 1970’s ;)</p>

<p>EK4, that is too funny. D’s letter was addressed to the family of …</p>

<p>D requested that I ask for college info in my own name, since she didn’t want to get any more mail- ( smart girl- I should have put it in the name of my dog, the way I did in the name of my cat for my oldest daughter)- then it is very easy to tell how which mailing list is being used.</p>

<p>I posted this on a previous thread about this topic which promptly died. So, as an encore - </p>

<p>Turn on your printer; I’m about to give you your retirement income plan.</p>

<p>Come up with a grandiose title. Something like “National All-American Honor Society of Scholarly High School Servant Leaders.” Look around until you find someone with a famous last name who’s looking for an easy buck. An Einstein would be great. A Nobel is also good. Settle for a Roosevelt, Eisenhower or Kennedy if you must. Pay that person to be your figurehead and to write a letter indicating how this society perpetuates the life works of their famous distant relative, and how kids like yours are the inheritors of the world that great-step-granddad helped to create. Send Fred Roosevelt’s letter to every guidance counselor in the country and ask for nominees, explaining how great it will be for their school when they can publicize all their honored students, how the honor is free, and how those students will be aided in their college searches and have a shot at generous scholarships. Create a glitzy promotional piece to send out to all the parents of the GCs’ nominees, indicating how prestigious this honor is and how the proud parents will surely want to pay only $69 for the hardcover NAAHSSHSSL book (or $119 for the deluxe faux leather bound version, and perhaps $49 for the framed certificate, $19 for the key ring, and $199 for the coveted semi-precious jeweled pin by which the Society’s honorees recognize one another). Put a couple percent of the revenue in a scholarship fund and give out modest grants to the students who write the best testimonials about how the Society helped them get into the dream school for which they’d have never otherwise been competitive. Redirect a substantial amount of the revenue into a special one-week Washington D.C.-based “Young Leaders of America” seminar, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for which next year’s parents will have to raise only $3850. Put the rest of the proceeds into your retirement fund, except for a couple grand which you’ll want to use next year to fire Fred Roosevelt and hire Fred Einstein.</p>

<p>My son was asked to join as a freshman when my daughter was a junior. She had just been passed up for National Honor Society and I felt badly for her, so (thinking it was probably just a money-making endeavor) I crossed out my son’s name, put in my daughter’s, and sent off the “application” with my $45 check. In return we received a pretty certificate and a press release for the newpaper announcing my daughter’s induction. We chuckled about how meaningless membership in either organization is (at least in our town NHS is meaningless).</p>

<p>Um, Gadad, was that in response to my post a couple of weeks back?</p>