NBA Derick Rose SAT Failure

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<p>You need like an 800 (out of 2400) to qualify academically by the NCAA…</p>

<p>I’m a terrible test taker, but I did a helluva lot better than the NCAA minimum. If you cannot get an 800 on three sections, you’re probably a word that starts with ‘R’.</p>

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<p>This is incorrect. There is a sliding scale depending on GPA, and your SAT score is out of 1600.</p>

<p>I know there is a scale, but you dont exactly need a 3.5 and a 1300/1600 to qualify. It’s pretty easy to qualify.</p>

<p>I know who Derrick Rose is. That makes 2.</p>

<p>… No matter what his regular IQ is, his “basketball IQ” is fantastic.</p>

<p>im guessing if i possesed the quickness, athleticism, ball handling and pin-point passing ability that Derrick Rose has, i would have probably scored about 800 points lower on my SAT. And I probably woundn’t have cared. It would have been way more practical to work on improving my jump shot than worrying about SAT prep. NCAA minimums? Who cares? Plenty of schools would be willing to alter my records just like they did Rose’s. So to be honest, when I hear a basketball player can’t score a 750 on his SAT, it doesn’t really indicate a lack of intelligence to me. It just demonstrates a way of life, that doesn’t necessarily include Math or English. For those of us who weren’t so innately athletically talented, we take our knowledge for granted, because we have no choice but to learn.</p>

<p>People are too hyped up on standardized testing. A lot of you need to realize that just because someone does not fit the quota of “college material” does not make it true. There are plenty of students that deserve to be in college despite low test scores.</p>

<p>He’s a basketball player, I don’t know how many of you actually realize that. If he’s good, he’ll most likely become profession, which is to say the least, a career. Does he need to score excellent on the SAT in order to have a fulfilling career? Absolutely not. He’s in college for sports. There are multiple reasons why students attend college–some plain and simply want to get out of the house and party. What he is doing with his light is highly productive; no one has the right to judge and tell him that he’s unfit for college.</p>

<p>Having an academic test requirement for sports is ridiculous.</p>

<p>Vehicle, the score he is required to have is hardly “excellent.” In fact, it’s well below the national average, especially if it’s on a 2400 scale.
Education matters. For everyone. Even amazing basketball players. If his original score was 60 or so points below the score he needed, he probably could have studied, and not even all that much, to get the score he needed.
Athletes shouldn’t be held separately from society. They have to be educated to some minimum standard, and it shouldn’t be one where allowing someone else to take the SAT for a below average score is acceptable. It’s not that it’s a bad idea for this athlete, it’s a bad idea for society at large. The article mentions other athletes like Shawn Johnson, but she is an A student, in highly ranked courses. I doubt there would be articles letting her slide if she had someone else take the SAT for her. I know people who, after finishing my high school, joined ballet companies, but they were still held to the same academic standards as everyone else, despite their incredible, amazing talent.</p>

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<p>That’s very sad on your part.</p>

<p>There are a lot of sport players who I consider intelligent.Kobe Bryant, Larry Fitzgerald,… actually there aren’t that much.
But you guys are making it seem as if he should only concentrate on sports. What if he were to have a career ending injury before he made it to the NBA, then what would he have to fall back on. Flipping patties?</p>

<p>for above a 3.550 GPA, the minimum score necessary on the SAT is i believe precisely 400/1600 or 37 sum points on the ACT to be considered for recruitment in the NCAA.<br>
Div. II has a sliding scale, all the way down to 2.000 gpa, which requires a total of 1010 math and verbal or 85 sum points on the ACT. For Div. II, the floor is a 2.000 and 820/1600.</p>

<p>If a guy can’t muster that, i don’t think he has any business being a student-athlete.</p>

<p>moreover, i find it ludicrous that this journalist views a 750 SAT requirement as a “rigged system” for people like this. if you want to play college ball, you need to be a college student. if you want to be a college student, you need to have a basic level of intelligence and education.</p>

<p>if we don’t think athletes need education, we should have a system like they have in china or that they did in former communist nations where they would select kids from birth, give them no education, and groom them for professional athletics. however, we deem it instead better for people to go through college and college athletics before going pro.</p>

<p>if this system is not satisfactory, perhaps instead what we need to do is have a system of U-18 and U-21 teams where athletes can devote their whole lives to their sport and not have to bother being accepted to college. on the other hand, the majority of college basketball players won’t be going pro, so presumably, they’ll need a college education.</p>

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<p>That’s how we do in Lower Merion High School :)</p>

<p>stupid question: did kobe play college ball?</p>

<p>No, he went straight from Lower Merion HS (represent) to the NBA :)</p>

<p>He would’ve gone to Duke, I believe.</p>

<p>LeBron would have gone to Duke, also Shaun Livingston</p>

<p>Nobody knows where LeBron would’ve gone because nobody bothered to recruit him. Everyone knew he was going straight to the NBA. Also, it’s likely there would’ve ended up being a controversy similar to the one OJ Mayo is going through. I mean he got caught even as a senior in HS taking gifts (and escaped with a 2 game suspension). It would be pretty naive to think that was all he was getting.</p>

<p>Nobody wants to watch a bunch of clumsy uncoordinated nerds play ball, so without these guys your college wouldn’t have nearly as much money as it does. </p>

<p>Just throwing that out there.</p>

<p>Its all about the money duh…doesnt matter how they get it.</p>

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<li><p>The line between most top D-1 athletes and the players like Derrick Rose is not particularly fine. You don’t need a sub 800/1600 to be a very good basketball player.</p></li>
<li><p>Most top athletic programs are financially separate from the rest of the school. Their money doesn’t come from and doesn’t go to the school as a whole. Also, most aren’t raking up a huge profits. I know, for example, that UCLA’s athletic department’s profit is in the tens of thousands of dollars, if that. So the school wouldn’t have nearly as much, it would have exactly as much.</p></li>
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